NAD: Fender Hot Rod DeVille 212 (Full Review)

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Well, after about a month's time searching for my perfect amp, playing between 20 and 30 amplifiers, logging some of my notes here, I have finally acquired my new amp!

I did a trade with a bro from TGP: my Blackheart head, cab, and attenuator + a few bucks for this DeVille. Great guy, fair trade, clean transaction (we drove from opposite ends of the state to make the trade in a parking lot, and we were both very glad to see that the other was a nice decent dude, no surprises, equipment as described.)

It's a Fender Hot Rod DeVille 212, a 60 watt, all tube 2x6L6, 3x12AX7, 2x12" combo amp with 2 channel switching and some pretty legit reverb, if you're not familiar with them. It was Made in the U.S.A. and has a gold "50 Years of Excellence" badge which would lead me to believe it's a 1996 (my Strat is a '96 and bears the same badge on the back of the headstock). Kind of cool that my Strat and my new amp are both from '96.

I am very glad to report that the tone criteria listed in my "Help I6 Find a new AMP!" thread have all been met.

The clean channel on the amp is so bassy and full and clear and warm that it really defies further description. If you have only heard about, but never been in the same room with "the Fender cleans" we all talk about, do yourself a favor and make it a point to play one. It feels and sounds unlike anything you've heard before. On my first experimentation, it sounded kind of "impossible" to my brain, that it could be so loud without being harsh, trebly, or vibrating into a million pieces. Love this.

The drive channel is, in my opinion, kind of a mountain-valley-mountain situation:
With very,very little gain, a setting I describe as "clean sparkle," it sounds good. I'm talking about a basically clean setting that has a touch of bristle or sparkle, like what you hear in accent parts on soft rock songs.

Everything between "clean sparkle" and high gain: meh. No bass, and the note definition is flubby. The drive channel, overall sounds fuzzy. Not fizzy, but fuzzy. Kind of like it doesn't know if it wants to be voiced old-school or new-school, and it just kinda gave up on picking one or the other.

High gain: back to sounding more authoritative. Gets tight again near the top of the gain knob, would be great for violin-like fusion stuff, or bridge pickup drop-D riffage in your alt / metal band. I was fairly surprised about how decent it was in the high gain department. Those 12AX7's are definitely earning their keep.

The drive channel, disappointingly, lacks the "holy ****" bass of the clean channel. What I found, though, is that the clean channel, when hit with a pedal like my Monte Allums modded Boss DS-1, gains all the drive of the pedal, and still retains the full, tight, bassy warmth of the clean channel. It's a truly remarkable "best of both worlds" situation.

To my ear, my Monte Allums "Rectifier Mod" DS-1 into the clean channel sounds (no, not like a Mesa Rectifier,) an awful lot like a Marshall JCM 800. I wasn't listening in and hoping it would sound like that either. I just heard something that I played, and it sounded just like Tom Morello's early 90's Rage Against the Machine tone, which is famously JCM 800. That's a good thing --- because as I said, the drive channel on the DeVille leaves a good bit to be desired.

More to come in next post.
 
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Re: NAD: Fender Hot Rod DeVille 212 (Full Review)

these amps are amazing clean amps... a strat with the neck PU on is where they really shine... never was a huge fan of the drive channels in them but not bad either... i'd buy one myself for the cleans!
 
Re: NAD: Fender Hot Rod DeVille 212 (Full Review)

With a Strat and a Tubescreamer, it really sounds just about perfect. I found myself easily dialing in Mayer tones with just the guitar knobs --- now I have a feeling for 6L6 clean / mid gain tone, and why some pros stick with it so closely.

I was always afraid of 6L6's before, because I heard that their natural overdrive is not as cool or appealing as the EL and KT tubes. Well, I have a pile of good pedals, and I cannot imagine a situation where I would ever set the volume on the clean channel above 3 or 4 anyhow, so the 6L6 saturation thing is moot.

Strat + Tubescreamer + 6L6 = oh yeah

P90 + Monte Allums DS-1 + 6L6 = oh yeeeaaarnnnh-ah

Get it?

Size: It's not as portable as I was hoping. It's actually heavier than the 4x10 DeVille, and only 2.5" shorter. It's the same in the other dimensions. It weighs 54 pounds, and is a fairly tall amp. About 2.5" shorter than a 4x10 combo amp :laughing:

I hate to say it, but there may be days when I pick the VOX AD15VT over this for a church gig, because of my back (it lives in my basement). I was hoping to avoid that, but honestly, with the amount of focus I have on bass, loud cleans, warmth, fullness, I was going to be stuck with a 2x12 at the very least anyhow.

All in all: it feels like my Ford Explorer. Nobody is ever going to say "Wow, you have a Fender Hot Rod DeVille?!" or covet it as they watch me play. But, much like the Explorer, while it may not be cool looking or portray an image of coolness, it's proven, it's reliable, and it can do about 100 different things well. I like my Explorer and I like my DeVille --- reppin' the proven-but-boring stuff til' the day I die.

I think this amplifier will allow me to stop focusing on getting my tone just right, and focus on playing. When I plug any guitar into this amp, the tone I hear in my head is "just there." It took me a while, of trying basically everything but Fender to figure out that a Fender amp (what I started on, and kind of the reason I avoided them, i.e. "been there done that, want to try new stuff) is the amp that delivers my tone. Like I said, I stayed away from them for years because I started out with a Fender amp, and they are kind of like Ford Explorers --- nobody dreams of getting one as a little boy, nobody has a Ford Explorer / Fender Hot Rod calendar on their wall. That sort of treatment is reserved for Corvettes and Marshall stacks. But the ugly duckling, the mid-priced, boring do-it-all, that's who I am. And this amp reflects me, and it sounds like me.

And they lived happily ever after.

-Hunter
 
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Nice! Now rock out :headbang:

Hell yeah, man - much rocking has been done now that I've figured out that running the Monte Allums DS-1 into the clean channel is basically the best rock tone I've ever heard. Think Marshall bite with Fender low end. Unf!

-Hunter
 
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P.S. Uploading my YouTube demo / review as we speak!

I live in western nowhere, VA, so it will take 4 hours before it's up (DSL, the fastest thing available in my town), but when it's up, you can see what I was trying to capture in text above.

Love,
Hunter
 
Re: NAD: Fender Hot Rod DeVille 212 (Full Review)

I used to have one many years ago. That SOB is very very loud. Protect your ears my friend or you'll be wearing hearing aids one day.
 
Re: NAD: Fender Hot Rod DeVille 212 (Full Review)

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1996 Tweed 4x10 Blues Deville
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JCM 2000 DSL 100
Running them both behind a UniVibe,Volume Dist Wha,Split at a Delay, is quite interesting..
My DeVille is a 1996, and dont have to coin like my Strat does..:mad:
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It's All Good! ;)
 
Re: NAD: Fender Hot Rod DeVille 212 (Full Review)

kick ass dude.
I've wanted to play one seeing as how it's like a better hot rod deluxe. I knew you'd find something in the fender line that would do the trick.

Something about fender's reverb just feels "alive", and although the drive channel ain't all that it really is about using the right pedal.

I'm looking forward to the demo.
 
Re: NAD: Fender Hot Rod DeVille 212 (Full Review)

that's cool. I always wanted the fender hot rod amp with the 4-10s. is this the 2-12 version of that?
 
Re: NAD: Fender Hot Rod DeVille 212 (Full Review)

Good score. The only ones I see in my shop have been victims of some sort of freak accident with only one in recollectable history that had an actual manufacturing defect. Repairs are pretty straight forward on this amp and the build quality is robust enough for gigging without worries. Enjoy!
 
Re: NAD: Fender Hot Rod DeVille 212 (Full Review)

Happy new amp day!

I've played through a couple of Hot Rod Deville amps. Your post was the same impression I had: great clean channel, sub-par OD channel though ok with "more drive" but the two I played I used a DS-1 the first time and a Blues Driver the second and the clean channel took both very well.
 
Re: NAD: Fender Hot Rod DeVille 212 (Full Review)

I've got the 94 tweed 2 channel version and it's as you describe.
I did however swap the tubes for 6v6's which allows me to run the clean
channel up to 6 when I'm feeling nasty. I also only use the dirty channel
as a slightly dirty boost, lowish gain and high volume.

Enjoy mate, I'm not getting rid of mine either!
 
Re: NAD: Fender Hot Rod DeVille 212 (Full Review)

that's cool. I always wanted the fender hot rod amp with the 4-10s. is this the 2-12 version of that?

Yep.

Deluxe = 40 watts
DeVille = 60 watts (this is the 4x10)
DeVille 212 = 60 watts

These two, as far as I can tell, are identical except for the obvious speaker difference. They share a manual.

I guess they made two so you could pick four 10"s or two 12"s based in your preference.

-Hunter
 
Re: NAD: Fender Hot Rod DeVille 212 (Full Review)

CONGRTAZ ON YOUR NEW FOUND TONE HUNTER !

I really think these amps are sleepers.
I like 'em and with a vlave swap and speaker swap can compete with booteek stuff - easily. YMMV.

I also like BOTH the 'drive' & 'more drive' channels. Seriously.
I have to agree with you about the lack of low end.
There must be a very simple/cheap mod for this, simmilar to the Deluxe Reveb treb-bleed mod, where you just cut the one transister, and you get some tasty bass.


Like i said, i really like all the dirt tones, and here is why i say so.



Sounds real good with Humbuckers too !


Really good amp.
 
Re: NAD: Fender Hot Rod DeVille 212 (Full Review)

Yep.

Deluxe = 40 watts
DeVille = 60 watts (this is the 4x10)
DeVille 212 = 60 watts

These two, as far as I can tell, are identical except for the obvious speaker difference. They share a manual.

I guess they made two so you could pick four 10"s or two 12"s based in your preference.

-Hunter


ah - I liked the OD channel in the one I checked out. very biting.
 
Re: NAD: Fender Hot Rod DeVille 212 (Full Review)

Sounds like the amount of effort you put into your search is proportionate with your level of satisfaction....Glad it ended w "Eureka!"

Congrats & enjoy!
 
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