NAD: Fender Mustang I

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I wanted a small amp for home practice and recording in my apartment, since my main amp (Mark V half stack) is waaaaay too big and loud for that purpose. After trying a bunch of small amps, tube and modelling, I picked the most impressive one, which also happened to be the cheapest: the Mustang I.

I've been playing through it for a couple of days, and I still can't believe this is a $100 amp. My main criteria was that it sound good at low volume, which it definitely does. Fact is, it sounds great at ANY volume - far better than the other small modeller combos out right now.

The list of amps modelled is fairly modest, but they cover a lot of ground. For big clean tone you have a very passable '65 Twin Reverb. For gritty small amp power tube distortion tones you have a nice '57 Deluxe model. The JCM800 model covers a lot of ground, as does the Supersonic model (the best big amp Fender has designed since the blackface era IMO). The two high gain choices, a Dual Rec and whatever the "Metal 2000" model is (my guess is a 5150 or a Powerball) are surprisingly big and tight considering they're coming out of an 8" speaker. I think the closed back cab definitely helps.

The front panel controls are very simple and intuitive, but the real fun begins when you use the USB to connect the amp to your computer and run the Fender FUSE software (PC or Mac). FUSE is similar to Amplitube and other such amp sim apps: choose an amp model, tweak it, add effects, save. The cool trick here is that FUSE is controlling the amp itself in real time. You don't have to "sync" the amp to FUSE, or do an annoying upload/download procedure - what you do in FUSE is applied to the amp immediately.

With FUSE, you get an incredible amount of control over the Mustang's settings. You can add effects pre or post amp, tweak individual effect parameters, switch cabs ... even change the amp's virtual tube bias and main-line voltage (sag). Once you're done tweaking, you can save whatever changes you made into the Mustang's preset banks and walk away from the computer with a completely different amp.

Yes, it's a modeller. Yes, it's not perfect out of the box. Yes, there is some tweaking involved. Yes, it isn't the same as the amps it's modelling. None of that matters, because at the end of the day it's an outstanding practice and recording tool for $100. Quite simply, the Mustang I DESTROYS any amp at or near that price. Heck, I was comparing it against amps costing four and five times as much and I still preferred it. In the past, Fender either stayed out of the modelling arena or had thrown a few token offerings in. With the Mustangs and FUSE, they have become one of the big players along with Line 6 and Vox, and they're clearly the one to beat now.
 
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Actually, I am so impressed with this amp I'm going to record something really awesome with it this week. I'll post it when it's ready. Stay tuned! ;)

I definitely will stay tuned. I've always been interested in how those Mustangs perform when recorded line in. I know that there's utoob vids and stuff but... I mean... real recordings... bro recordings ;)
 
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I was playing for an hour today with the '57 deluxe model and ABing it with the Les Lius into my DRRI.

You might be able to guess which one I like better (I haven't sold my Les Lius!) but damn that mustang does a good job. the mustang sounds fuller at lower volumes but my DRRI cleans up about twice as well with the guitar knobs. The character of the breakup is so similar that it's scary.
 
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oh and if you find out how to get the back panel off and get to the speaker (I might like to put a weber sig into it, cuz I use it the champ model all the time!), let me know.

That back panel is ON there
 
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A bit more time on the amp, so a bit more info:

- I LOVE the '65 Deluxe Reverb model. It really captures the flavour of the original.

- Love the Twin Reverb model as well. Big and juicy clean.

- Editing presets in Fuse is a breeze. The interface is very intuitive. I pretty much never touch the amp.

- A LIMITATION: In Fuse, you can put any effect you like pre or post amp, but you can only have one instance of that effect. The available effects are Stomp (comps, OD's, fuzzes), Modulation (chorus, flanger, phaser, pitch shifter), Delay, and Reverb. You can only have one of each of those in your effects chain, including pre and post. Example: if you decide you want a phaser post-amp, it will remove the pitch shifter you have pre-amp.

- Recording using the amp's USB is very straight-forward (on a Mac at least). I was able to see the amp as an input device in Logic. It shows as having two inputs (for stereo post-amp effects) and no outputs. There were no issues with running Fuse and recording in Logic at the same time.

- The USB Gain setting on the Fuse Advanced Amp controls sets the level of the amp sound coming in from the USB port. This is independent of the amp's master volume, which means you can monitor at low levels (or even silently) while still getting a nice hot signal for recording. If you want to do all monitoring through your DAW, just turn the master volume on the amp all the way down and use the USB Gain in Fuse to set the input level.
 
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Seems like a lot of features for a hundred dollars! Especially with a neat USB recording mode.
 
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- The USB Gain setting on the Fuse Advanced Amp controls sets the level of the amp sound coming in from the USB port. This is independent of the amp's master volume, which means you can monitor at low levels (or even silently) while still getting a nice hot signal for recording. If you want to do all monitoring through your DAW, just turn the master volume on the amp all the way down and use the USB Gain in Fuse to set the input level.

OK, that's cool.

I am interested to try one now.

Seems like it would serve as a CAI, practice do-everything-tool, and recording sweetheart.
 
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Seems like a lot of features for a hundred dollars! Especially with a neat USB recording mode.

OK, that's cool.

I am interested to try one now.

Seems like it would serve as a CAI, practice do-everything-tool, and recording sweetheart.

Yeah, this thing is a true giant killer. I am most impressed by how good the tones are.

I am recording something really cool with this amp right now, and I'm very impressed with the quality of the tones I'm getting. Reverb is not the greatest, but that's not a really big deal. The amp models are the important thing, and so far I've not found one that is unusable ... very rare in a modelling amp IMO.
 
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That good, huh?

I might have to pick one up. Probably better than playing my Bassman at 1.8.
 
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It will never replace my Mark V (or any other good quality tube amp) but for home practice and recording it's awesome.
 
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How do you like the cab emulated USB out for recording?

Or are you using the 1/8" (sorry, 3.5 miillimetreuaux) cab emulated line out?
 
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How do you like the cab emulated USB out for recording?

Or are you using the 1/8" (sorry, 3.5 miillimetreuaux) cab emulated line out?

I'm recording straight outta da USB, homes.

My thoughts on the cab emulation:

- The USB tone sounds a bit different than the amp speaker tone. The exact nature of the difference varies from model to model.

- Switching the cab on the amp model seems to do more or less what you'd expect would happen if you switched cabs on that amp IRL. Putting a Champ cab on a '65 Deluxe Reverb, for example, cleans up the low mids but makes the amp sound "boxy".

- Changing the modelled cab affects both the USB tone and the amp speaker tone.

- There are plenty of cabs to choose from, and some amp-cab pairings are pretty cool (I really liked the '65 DR through the SuperSonic 2x12, for example).
 
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What I took from this thread (feel free to correct me I'm a somewhat dense Yeti).
- USB recording that is DAW friendly.
- Inuitive software.
- Offers a Rectifier-like model.
- Around the 100 bones (CAD) mark?

Hmmm very interested.
 
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they are hands down the best modeler out there.

every little kid who got a new guitar for xmas got a Mustang I.
 
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