NAD Twin Reissue, couple of questions

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Hey all, picked up as nice Reissue Twin with a road case and I'd love some info. This one has Eminence "special design" speakers. What are these all about?
Also, is it possible to put a tube rectifier in a Twin?
Would keeping the amp in the road case bottom affect the low end? I mean, if I take it out and use it on the floor, would I get more bass response?
I had a couple twins and this one seems brighter than I remember. Also, it has groove tubes in it which I am not usually a fan of them.
I think I may need to go to a warmer, lower efficiency speaker. Any suggestions?
 
Re: NAD Twin Reissue, couple of questions

Put something besides 12AX7A's in the preamp positions.....maybe JJ's, Tungsol, or NOS.
The power tubes are probably fine, but make sure it's biased nice and strong.

I highly recommend the Eminence Patriot Swamp Thang. It's a great sounding speaker and will warm it up without being woofy. I'd probably install a Swamp Thang on the right and leave the stock Special Design on the left. You'll get a nice mix of fat warmth and shimmering highs. That's a good $90 upgrade.

I wouldn't worry about pulling the amp off the roadcase platform. Twins have a lot of bass on tap.

Not sure about adding a tube rectifier. That could get expensive, if it's possible.
 
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Re: NAD Twin Reissue, couple of questions

Those Emi special designs are sort of junk, and FWIW, I have a set in my Twin so I know!

They do the job but there are LOTS of better speakers out there for a TRRI.

Tube rec...no.

Speaker suggestions...the reissues are toppy to my ears, they sound GREAT with a set of Emi Cannabis Rex or for slightly more top end and clarity the Emi Red white and Blues but both of those are LOUD speakers. Not a lot of great options for a Twin that are low efficiency.

Tubes...I like a lot of new tubes but HATE JJ's so I'd suggest EH 12AX7's, maybe Tung Sol reissues but they are more clear than the EH's, EH 12AT7's for sure...Tung Sol 6L6 power tubes are tops.

Bass response with the amp off the floor...that depends on the floor to be honest.

You have the amp, the road case and a floor...try it and see.
 
Re: NAD Twin Reissue, couple of questions

I've just replaced my pre-amp tubes with JJs. They have a very smooth and warm top end which is maybe not what I want in my amp as it is quite dark anyway. If your amp is toppy I think JJs would sound fine.
 
Re: NAD Twin Reissue, couple of questions

Thanks guys. I have lots of JJ tubes just hanging around so I'll probably swap a few preamp tubes and see if that helps. Definitely going to have to do some speaker swapping though.
 
Re: NAD Twin Reissue, couple of questions

Cannabis Rex and a Swamp Thang would be a winning combo in that amp. They're not low efficiency, but that also means the amp will take everything you throw at it without buckling. That combo sounds huge.
 
Re: NAD Twin Reissue, couple of questions

Cannabis Rex and a Swamp Thang would be a winning combo in that amp. They're not low efficiency, but that also means the amp will take everything you throw at it without buckling. That combo sounds huge.

The high efficiency means they are loud, the high wattage means they can take abuse.

I'm not sure of nay high wattage speakers that are much below 100db's but there are a few...G12T75's are 97db's...G12-65's are also 97 db's...the new Jensen C12N's are 98.4 db's, the C12K is 99.1 db's and the P12n's are 98.4 db's but IMHO the new Jensen speakers are not so great sounding more often than not.

If you really want low db's email Weber and get them to suggest you something...I know they can get you something thats strong enough to handle the Twins power but not be over 100 db's.
 
Re: NAD Twin Reissue, couple of questions

Hey all, picked up as nice Reissue Twin with a road case and I'd love some info. This one has Eminence "special design" speakers. What are these all about?
Also, is it possible to put a tube rectifier in a Twin?
Would keeping the amp in the road case bottom affect the low end? I mean, if I take it out and use it on the floor, would I get more bass response?
I had a couple twins and this one seems brighter than I remember. Also, it has groove tubes in it which I am not usually a fan of them.
I think I may need to go to a warmer, lower efficiency speaker. Any suggestions?
Cool! im a fender twin devotee too and use one at a variety of gigs and for a variety of styles. Here is what i know that might help you out.

Emi/fender gold special design speakers are both flabby and unpleasantly trebly at the same time. even 15watt blues juniors can make them flab out in the low end. Swap them out for something fatter if you can afford it - texas heats are perfect for twins because the have heaps of headroom, and are fairly inefficient so you get nice warm fat tones and you can turn your amp up an extra half notch too without being too loud. Fat lows, girthy mids and smooth treble - i think these are so good it seems they were custom built for twins. Ive tried a few speakers in the twin (and other fenders) and they are my favourite for a twin by far.
I love cannabis rexes too but they are much more efficient (which is unneccesary in a twin) and they are only fifty watts. I love them in lower wattage fenders, but not in twins (they would be my second choice for twins and first choice for deluxe reverbs). Swamp things again are even more efficient (not necessarily a good thing in twins) with that massive magnet and are much more scooped in the mids with a clear present high end and huge bottom end. Probably more suited to modern style amps like a dual rectifier and heavy distorted tones.

Tube rectifier? i guess its posssible but it will take extensive modifications. Try putting a 12ax7 in the PI slot instead of the usual 12at7 for a looser feel. Its not great for the tube, but your amp will be okay. You just need to replace the PI more often with a 12ax7.

If you contact weber they will recommend either the 12f150 or the california. I removed my californias -too much treble and effciency. 12f150s are a modern remake of the original jensen c12n - great if it was still the early 70s and you needed to crank your amp just to be heard, but these days it is better to work within the limitations of live music venues as it it today.
Texas heats ftw in my book.

Road case? yeah why not? Remember that if you are recording, or mic.ed up for live, the microphone only hears the speaker, not the floor resonance. I generally have my twin tilted back so i get a truer representation directly to my ears of what is going to the desk or foh - you will dial in your tone controls differently that it the amp is sitting on the floor blasting your trouser legs but you will get a fatter FOH/recorded sound in the end.

Ok last secret tip: if you still want fatter, you can swap one capacitor from the tone stack from .47 to .22 and you will end up with the same tone stack as a super reverb - more useable bass (especially around the 100hz level) and low mids- the treble remains unchanged. It changes twins from being epic pristine clean machines to epic fat warm clean machines - more of a jazzy tone rather than sparkly clean. Its only a simple mod which is reversible if you want to try it out.
 
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Re: NAD Twin Reissue, couple of questions

Hey Gibson, thanks for that great info! The heats sound like they will be right up my alley. It's funny because these emis did flub out on me tonight. What a horrid sound when that happens! I may try that mod you suggest. I have a 68 super and the beautiful low mids and bass with a mellow top are exactly what I'm after, in fact that is why I snapped this amp up. I don't want my super taking a beating. When you say warm clean tone machine, you got my wheels spinning! I think I may order a set of the Texas Heats.
 
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Hey Erskin, I received my DLS from Pro Guitar Shop. This pedal is a mind blower! My wife had to come downstairs give me the hairy eyeball for like 10 minutes before I gave in and turned it down. You guys rule.
 
Re: NAD Twin Reissue, couple of questions

I ended up dropping in the texas heats. Man this thing sounds huge now! Way better tone in general, much warmer with fat round bass and smooth top end. I only just tried them out for a few minutes, with no break in they sound so much better than the old speakers did. Wow. I'm sure with some break in they will sound really nice. Also, I didn't expect it but it seems like I have much more sustain, maybe the old speakers were really beat? I mean clean single notes just ringing out for a long time!
 
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Hey Erskin, I received my DLS from Pro Guitar Shop. This pedal is a mind blower! My wife had to come downstairs give me the hairy eyeball for like 10 minutes before I gave in and turned it down. You guys rule.

aahhh I have been curious how the DLS would sound with a twin!

I have a couple C-Rexs in my TRRI that are pretty warm but now I want to compare the texas heats...:33:
 
Re: NAD Twin Reissue, couple of questions

Cool! im a fender twin devotee too and use one at a variety of gigs and for a variety of styles. Here is what i know that might help you out.

Swap them out for something fatter if you can afford it - texas heats are perfect for twins because the have heaps of headroom, and are fairly inefficient so you get nice warm fat tones and you can turn your amp up an extra half notch too without being too loud. Fat lows, girthy mids and smooth treble - i think these are so good it seems they were custom built for twins. Ive tried a few speakers in the twin (and other fenders) and they are my favourite for a twin by far.
I love cannabis rexes too but they are much more efficient (which is unneccesary in a twin) and they are only fifty watts. I love them in lower wattage fenders, but not in twins (they would be my second choice for twins and first choice for deluxe reverbs). Swamp things again are even more efficient (not necessarily a good thing in twins) with that massive magnet and are much more scooped in the mids with a clear present high end and huge bottom end. Probably more suited to modern style amps like a dual rectifier and heavy distorted tones.


All true. I bought my TRRI about five years ago and lived with the Jensen C12K's up until last year. Never liked them at all. In search of something better I decided to take a shot in the dark and go with a set of Heats. Bingo! Now my Twin sounds the way I've always thought it should. I also love the C-Rex in a low watt amp. I'm using one in an extension cab with my SCXD which had big time "ice pick" problems. Something about that hemp that took care of that problem the minute I installed it.
 
Re: NAD Twin Reissue, couple of questions

I used this amp tonight rehearsing with the band and it sounded top notch. Very full & fat, but still plenty of cut. I'm sure they will only get better with a break in.
 
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