neck pup for Epi LP Plustop Pro/FX

[LtKojak]

Re: neck pup for Epi LP Plustop Pro/FX

I have personal reasons for not going with a Demon - in any position in any guitar.

Well, coming from Texas, I'd assume the reason is you being a Christian? :saeek: :firedevil :naughty: :nana:

I know, I'm being silly... yesterday evening I saw TV program about the South, the role of the different Churches, Creationism and the likes, so sorry, I just couldn't resist. o :newangel:

On another note: I've remembered about the PATBs in LPs: they don't fit the regular Gibson, slanted p'up rings. To make'em fit the ring, you need to file about 1 mm of each side in the INTERNAL part of the ring.

If you decide to go the PATB way, look for an USABLE p'up ring, and I'll tell you what to look:

BAD p'up ring:


It offers NO SUPPORT for the screw if filed.

GOOD p'up ring:

This is a Gibson ring. It provides the necessary support for the screw even if filed too much. Look for this detail when shopping for parts.

HTH,

 

[darthphineas]

Re: neck pup for Epi LP Plustop Pro/FX

Nothing to do with the name of the model, although it's not a particularly effective name...much like the Full Shred and those Lord Of The Ring models of late.

Although not a Gibson-phile of your level (and who could be?), I've actually had some spare Gibson rings in the tech kit for a while now. Spring support, arched based, cream and everything. Won't be moving any PATB soon, as the are currently in the guitar that the Fluence humbuckers will be going in to when they hit the market...so I'll be swapping around then.

 

[Letus]

Actually, only one of the three pickups' names was a Lord of The Rings reference. The other three were only vaguely inspired by the world and generic terms in and of themselves. And I think that the Nazgul is an excellent name for the pickup.

'Nazgûl, Nazgûl,' said Grishnákh, shivering and licking his lips, as if the word had a foul taste that he savoured painfully. 'You speak of what is deep beyond the reach of your muddy dreams, Uglúk,'

That is one of my favorite lines in the book. Yes, I was a major devotee of the book when I discovered it, and though I had lost touch with the series for a while, I never lost my love for it.

 

[Letus]

Re: neck pup for Epi LP Plustop Pro/FX

But getting back to the topic, is what this fellow says true;

"PRO" means that the hardware has the same hardware materials and specifications as Gibson USA hardware, but is built in the far-east to keep costs down. So, for example, the pickups on a PRO model Epiphone will be Gibson spec. for materials and construction, but made in the far-east with the same winding number, etc.. E.g.: The Alnico Classic & Alnico Classic Plus humbuckers are exact hardware & specs. of the 57 Classic & 57 Classic Plus but made in the far-east. In this guitar's case the pickups are the American made Gibson pickups themselves.

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This was taken from here: http://www.epiphone.com/Products/Les-Paul/PRO-FX.aspx

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Re: neck pup for Epi LP Plustop Pro/FX

this is the one with the Floyd Rose. MF is blowing them out for $399 with free shipping, so I couldn't help myself.

uncertain about what I'll do with the bridge...maybe a BKP Rebel Yell or a Suhr SSH+ or a JB with a RCA5 mag or maybe just something else. ...things that straddle the line of vintage-hot to modern, but that's not the concern. I so very rarely find neck pickups that really do what I want them to do.

I shoot for 80s hard rock. amp is an ADA MP-1 w/ BBE going stereo to a pair of 4x12 cabs.

the guitar a mahogany with maple top. mahogany set neck with rosewood. FR Special (I know, I know... there will be upgrades on that part). p/p pots to split each pup....but may re-wire for parallel. a lot of guys rave about the Epi Lesters, but I'm not going to fool myself into believing Gibson lets them use the same quality of wood selection in the Epi line. I'm sure it'll be fine, but I know I'm not sporting a full-on Gibby Lester Axcess here. lol! just something at a great price that looks like fun.

for the neck, I generally put A4 mags in the neck pickups of Duncans, so the Mule and the Emerald made sense. neck models that work for me would include the LiquiFire and the Humbucker From Hell. a Jazz with an A4 is alright. the custom shop Eclair neck is alright. the goal is something that will be good for lead and not be too flabby or woofy in the lows. it will probably be wired to go to split or parallel for clean amp voicings, so something that cleans up nice is helpful.

options that have been thrown around so far include the Jazz (which would definitely get an A4) and the PGn. also looking at the BKP Mule and BKP Emerald. 99.999% of the time, I do not mix the pickups - it's either one or the other - so how it will pair up is also not a huge factor to worry about.


please post/reply with your selection and the reason you made your selection.

thanks!

I noticed you listed the Humbucker From Hell as a possible option. I had one installed in my Epi maple-top LP and it made a big improvement in overall clarity and de-mudding that slot. But I thought it sounded a bit thin for my tastes, and replaced it a Dimarzio Eric Johnson Neck pup. The EJ resolved that issue and has stayed in that slot for about two years, with no plans to remove it. However, I did have to lower the pickup screws in the low E string and A string slots to reduce the bass to the extent that I wanted.

Before trying these pups, I had tried the SD Jazz in that slot but it didn't do anything for the muddiness inherent in that slot and I thought the Jazz EQ was a little too grainy for my tasters.

something to cosnider.

 

[darthphineas]

Re: neck pup for Epi LP Plustop Pro/FX

Actually, only one of the three pickups' names was a Lord of The Rings reference. The other three were only vaguely inspired by the world and generic terms in and of themselves. And I think that the Nazgul is an excellent name for the pickup.

Get a grip, kid.

 

[Letus]

Re: neck pup for Epi LP Plustop Pro/FX

Get a grip, kid.

YOU AROUSED THE BEAST IN ME!

 

[steve9199]

Re: neck pup for Epi LP Plustop Pro/FX

I play an Epi Wilshire reissue I snagged for $199, and the stock P'ups were just too anaemic for my taste. I loaded a pair of '59's and could not be happier with the tone. It's a solid mahogany body with no maple cap, and now all of a sudden I actually have some highs when I play. It might be worth looking into for your LP.

Good luck... Steve

 

[always SD]

Re: neck pup for Epi LP Plustop Pro/FX

you must change electronics
and buy pickups with a lot of high ends

 

[darthphineas]

Re: neck pup for Epi LP Plustop Pro/FX

you must change electronics
and buy pickups with a lot of high ends

I did meter at least one of the pots at 450k, which I'd like to get up to at least 500k. Or maybe grab some 1 meg ohm. The BKP Rebel Yell is making it happen in the bridge. I also have a Suhr SSH+ as an option. There are a few Jazz neck models coming in today. I'll throw some A4 in there and tinker with the Allen head poles.

My curiosity is still drawing me toward some T-Tops or some BKP Riff Raff...

 

[Rockstar216]

Re: neck pup for Epi LP Plustop Pro/FX

Have you thought about maybe going the CS route?

 

[darthphineas]

Re: neck pup for Epi LP Plustop Pro/FX

Have you thought about maybe going the CS route?

I've spoken with MJ about some options. I think she's still a bit behind fro being out of the office a few weeks ago. Might no more on that front soon.

 

[Rockstar216]

Re: neck pup for Epi LP Plustop Pro/FX

Some other pups that crossed my mind that you might be interested in is the Fralin Unbucker, or a L500 C in the neck or if your really adventurous try a single coil in humbucker housing.

 

[soulforger]

Re: neck pup for Epi LP Plustop Pro/FX

You could go Lerxt on it with a Gibbo 498T bridge 496R neck, I like the ceramic in the neck of the Lester for clarity...you mentioned a Tremonti bridge, great pup, the Tremonti neck pickup by the way, is superb. I'm a fan of these Epis, having a Floyd on a LP is awesome!