Need Fast Advise on Les paul Custom
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MetalManiac
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Re: Need Fast Advise on Les paul Custom
Epilouge;
dude sent me a link to a verification of guitars serial # authenticity through a site that was not geuine Gibson USA. I read beforehand that these sites do not prove anything.
What I told dude was that I would pay for his gas , and I mean it, ( not much I could do about his time) *IF he could verify the guitars authenticity through Gibson USA.I also said that I would drive to his location to trade if he could legitimize the guitar as a genuine Les Paul Custom through Gibson USA and provide me documentation.
Well, the guy was actually quite nice to me after all was said and done af. Whether he didn't know , or whatnot, I cannot say.Probably he did.Maybe he was burned , but some of what the guy told me in the initial correspondences were suspect IMO.
Anyhow, here is one of is emails after we talked on the phone ;
I drove over here all this time the least you could have done was met me and looked at it and said no then you jackass you cost me 100 in gas and a whole day of time****you**hole even if you decided you didn't want it you could have been courteous since I drove all this way I'm not mad that you didn't want the guitar I'm mad that you wouldn't even meet me and give me the time of day after I took off work
> I try and trade you a old custom for a $600 ZW and a crate amp even if it wasn't real "which it is" the factory comes up on the guitar dater when you type the number in you would still be getting a good deal lol
> The least you could have done was taken a look since I drive so far you jerk
AND THEN THIS IS OUR LAST CORRESPONDENCE AFTER i OFFERED TO PAY FOR HIS GAS AND DRIVE TO HIM TO GET THE GUITAR iF HE COULD LEGITIMIZE IT THROUGH GIBSON USA. ( i am pretty surer he knows its a fake);
QUOTE-It's all good
If you would have just taken 15 minutes to look at it you could have held and played it and tell how nice it was nice it was not Junk lol I imagine you can probably feel the difference
And I actually brought cash for the guitar incase you changed your mind or something but you didn't show up lol -END QUOTE
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BTW-The Epi is not for sale, I love it,only for trade.Zakk Wylde RULES!I just need a V.
Epilouge;
dude sent me a link to a verification of guitars serial # authenticity through a site that was not geuine Gibson USA. I read beforehand that these sites do not prove anything.
What I told dude was that I would pay for his gas , and I mean it, ( not much I could do about his time) *IF he could verify the guitars authenticity through Gibson USA.I also said that I would drive to his location to trade if he could legitimize the guitar as a genuine Les Paul Custom through Gibson USA and provide me documentation.
Well, the guy was actually quite nice to me after all was said and done af. Whether he didn't know , or whatnot, I cannot say.Probably he did.Maybe he was burned , but some of what the guy told me in the initial correspondences were suspect IMO.
Anyhow, here is one of is emails after we talked on the phone ;
I drove over here all this time the least you could have done was met me and looked at it and said no then you jackass you cost me 100 in gas and a whole day of time****you**hole even if you decided you didn't want it you could have been courteous since I drove all this way I'm not mad that you didn't want the guitar I'm mad that you wouldn't even meet me and give me the time of day after I took off work
> I try and trade you a old custom for a $600 ZW and a crate amp even if it wasn't real "which it is" the factory comes up on the guitar dater when you type the number in you would still be getting a good deal lol
> The least you could have done was taken a look since I drive so far you jerk
AND THEN THIS IS OUR LAST CORRESPONDENCE AFTER i OFFERED TO PAY FOR HIS GAS AND DRIVE TO HIM TO GET THE GUITAR iF HE COULD LEGITIMIZE IT THROUGH GIBSON USA. ( i am pretty surer he knows its a fake);
QUOTE-It's all good
If you would have just taken 15 minutes to look at it you could have held and played it and tell how nice it was nice it was not Junk lol I imagine you can probably feel the difference
And I actually brought cash for the guitar incase you changed your mind or something but you didn't show up lol -END QUOTE
Sent from my iPhon
>
BTW-The Epi is not for sale, I love it,only for trade.Zakk Wylde RULES!I just need a V.
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Demanic
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beaubrummels
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Re: Need Fast Advise on Les paul Custom
Glad this worked out ok. Close shave. Sometimes it's good NOT to jump on a 'deal.'
For the benefit of future members searching around here who aren't sure whether they're looking at a real Gibson, here's a comparison of the things I noticed...
Glad this worked out ok. Close shave. Sometimes it's good NOT to jump on a 'deal.'
For the benefit of future members searching around here who aren't sure whether they're looking at a real Gibson, here's a comparison of the things I noticed...
allbutromeo
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Re: Need Fast Advise on Les paul Custom
Other things that may be lighting/angle. Bridge pickup looks crooked, fretboard looks awfully light and too brown for ebony (or Richlite). Pickguard screw in wrong location, pickup rings and poker chip and knobs should be black. Combined with the more obvious flaws previously noted it's not even a decent fake
Other things that may be lighting/angle. Bridge pickup looks crooked, fretboard looks awfully light and too brown for ebony (or Richlite). Pickguard screw in wrong location, pickup rings and poker chip and knobs should be black. Combined with the more obvious flaws previously noted it's not even a decent fake
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Myaccount876
Amira-Maker
Re: Need Fast Advise on Les paul Custom
That body cutout looks completely wrong. The inlays too should be a dead giveaway.
From the guy's messages, he doesn't seem to have a whole lot of class either. I would just stop dealing with him entirely.
That body cutout looks completely wrong. The inlays too should be a dead giveaway.
From the guy's messages, he doesn't seem to have a whole lot of class either. I would just stop dealing with him entirely.
uOpt
Something Cool
Re: Need Fast Advise on Les paul Custom
It's still a cellphone pic. All you need is a bad enough lens to distort quite a bit. That can throw off the lines and the proportions around the headstock. Of course nobody even bothers to upload what is the full resolution of the cellphone pic either.
What should really happen is make some better photos when dude shows up.
It's still a cellphone pic. All you need is a bad enough lens to distort quite a bit. That can throw off the lines and the proportions around the headstock. Of course nobody even bothers to upload what is the full resolution of the cellphone pic either.
What should really happen is make some better photos when dude shows up.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Need Fast Advise on Les paul Custom
This train left the station yesterday.
This train left the station yesterday.
crusty philtrum
Vintageologist
Re: Need Fast Advise on Les paul Custom
Eh, no need to go outside the forum for that, you can get the same thing right here. Except here, it will be given with love and affection.
On topic, it should be said that thus far, Gibson has failed hopelessly at creating an accurate copy of a genuine Chinese LP. Even in 1959, the Gibsons couldn't even get close to a genuine 1959 Chinese LP.
The best bang for your collector dollar would be a Chinese knockoff of a Chinese LP.
Eh, no need to go outside the forum for that, you can get the same thing right here. Except here, it will be given with love and affection.
On topic, it should be said that thus far, Gibson has failed hopelessly at creating an accurate copy of a genuine Chinese LP. Even in 1959, the Gibsons couldn't even get close to a genuine 1959 Chinese LP.
The best bang for your collector dollar would be a Chinese knockoff of a Chinese LP.
MetalManiac
Li'l Junior Member
Re: Need Fast Advise on Les paul Custom
And just how good can a fake get?- check this out- probably a better guitar for the money than an Epiphone at the same price;
and looks like they are even getting better and better at fixing some of the stuff the best fakes that used to be a telltale sign;
"heads up Gibson fans! -sad as this is , there are now fakes out there that are very close looking!!!!! with one peice necks, 2 piece bodies, proper 5/8 truss nut, fret nibs, Nashville bridges,correct size serial number stamps, solid tops(you can see figuring under the binding in the cutaway where the maple meets the mahogany) and so on...i have seen a honey/lemon burst and a wine red in the ads. they are selling for around 500 as apposed to 250-300...
the tell tale signs are phillips height adjustment screws on the pafs, springs on the intonation screws, the tops and backs arent book-matched and a odd shaped 2 screw truss rod cover... i really think people could very easily be fooled and ripped off on the used market!!"
FAKE< the inlays are still MOP on a real Les Paul and MOTS on a fake? Also maybe the serial number can be authenticated by Gibson USA?Probbaly6 a good look at the nut/binding would tell the difference.Also to get the straightedge and see if the frets are level like in the video.Also, they say they use Rosewood on the fake Customs , when of course it should be Ebony. The thing about the electronics IMO is they can always be changed out to genuine Gibson, so that wouldn't be a foolproof method either of telling.If you can tell the difference in the finish, no fake is going to have a professional lacquer finish, that is for sure- too expensive to do. Cost has to be kept around or under 500 bucks for the best fake it seems.
Heres a link to a Gibson USA thread on fake Lesters;
http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/CounterfeitGibsons/
And just how good can a fake get?- check this out- probably a better guitar for the money than an Epiphone at the same price;
and looks like they are even getting better and better at fixing some of the stuff the best fakes that used to be a telltale sign;
"heads up Gibson fans! -sad as this is , there are now fakes out there that are very close looking!!!!! with one peice necks, 2 piece bodies, proper 5/8 truss nut, fret nibs, Nashville bridges,correct size serial number stamps, solid tops(you can see figuring under the binding in the cutaway where the maple meets the mahogany) and so on...i have seen a honey/lemon burst and a wine red in the ads. they are selling for around 500 as apposed to 250-300...
the tell tale signs are phillips height adjustment screws on the pafs, springs on the intonation screws, the tops and backs arent book-matched and a odd shaped 2 screw truss rod cover... i really think people could very easily be fooled and ripped off on the used market!!"
FAKE< the inlays are still MOP on a real Les Paul and MOTS on a fake? Also maybe the serial number can be authenticated by Gibson USA?Probbaly6 a good look at the nut/binding would tell the difference.Also to get the straightedge and see if the frets are level like in the video.Also, they say they use Rosewood on the fake Customs , when of course it should be Ebony. The thing about the electronics IMO is they can always be changed out to genuine Gibson, so that wouldn't be a foolproof method either of telling.If you can tell the difference in the finish, no fake is going to have a professional lacquer finish, that is for sure- too expensive to do. Cost has to be kept around or under 500 bucks for the best fake it seems.
Heres a link to a Gibson USA thread on fake Lesters;
http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/CounterfeitGibsons/
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Funkfingers
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Re: Need Fast Advise on Les paul Custom
The long headstock looks wrong on anything but a full hollow body Jazz model.
The long headstock looks wrong on anything but a full hollow body Jazz model.
Lazarus1140
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Re: Need Fast Advise on Les paul Custom
I didn't c anything.
I didn't c anything.
superpete
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Re: Need Fast Advise on Les paul Custom
i have a chinese les paul and i love it. new tuners, new pickups, and it's a killer guitar for less than $400 all in
i have a chinese les paul and i love it. new tuners, new pickups, and it's a killer guitar for less than $400 all in
Myaccount876
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Re: Need Fast Advise on Les paul Custom
But it's illegal and unfairly gives Gibson the shaft, whether you approve of Gibson's practices or not.
But it's illegal and unfairly gives Gibson the shaft, whether you approve of Gibson's practices or not.
Dahla
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Re: Need Fast Advise on Les paul Custom
I don't know if it's sad, or not. But it seems the good fakes are more of a les paul to me than some Gibson's.
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I don't know if it's sad, or not. But it seems the good fakes are more of a les paul to me than some Gibson's.
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HALENisking
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