Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

[tterp]

I just installed a PGn and while there is sound, it is only like 20 times less than what comes out of my bridgepup...

I checked with multimeter, and everything seems fine, i have not insulated the red and the white wires yet (but i have soldered them toegther)

What could be the problem?

/tterp

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

I just installed a PGn and while there is sound, it is only like 20 times less than what comes out of my bridgepup...

I checked with multimeter, and everything seems fine, i have not insulated the red and the white wires yet (but i have soldered them toegther)

What could be the problem?

/tterp

Maker sure ALL your solder joints are good and solid and make sure that you did not melt or disconnect anything else in the process...

 

[tterp]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

I have measured everything (i believe) everything made the beeeeep sound, so i guess it should be correct and solid...

/tterp

 

[Imp]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

check there's enough solder on the black n green connections, it sounds like a dry connection to me..

failing that, is the pickup adjusted close enough to the strings? i mean, if you got something like a hotrail or a screamin demon, theres gonna be a volume drop..

also, welcome

tom

 

[Russ]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

i have not insulated the red and the white wires yet (but i have soldered them toegther)

You could have over-heated the pot.

..But, where do you have the Black, Green, & Bare wires? ..What do the tabs on the pot look like? ..Does one of them look like it's soldered to itself or not? ..Is there a cap going from the volume pot to the tone pot?

 

[tterp]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

in order to get a decent output i have to adjust the pickup way up, it almost touches the strings (which can´t be right)

I tried putting the old one (alino II Pro) back - and it has the right volume... somethings not right with the PG i guess...

/tterp

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

in order to get a decent output i have to adjust the pickup way up, it almost touches the strings (which can´t be right)

I tried putting the old one (alino II Pro) back - and it has the right volume... somethings not right with the PG i guess...

/tterp

At this point...w/o looking at the guitar I would agree...if the APH-ii worked then the pot is fine...truthfully I'm stumped!

 

[tterp]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

Yes it is quite strange... it was used (got it over ebay) but i figured, either a pickup works, og it doesn´t - well what do ya know, this one kindda worked... :smack:

The coils are fine, the cable works - could the magnets be damaged?

/tterp

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

Yes it is quite strange... it was used (got it over ebay) but i figured, either a pickup works, og it doesn´t - well what do ya know, this one kindda worked... :smack:

The coils are fine, the cable works - could the magnets be damaged?

/tterp

I have never heard of a damaged magnet...they can become demagnitized but I'm not sure how to test that...do you have another magnet you could put in it to test it out...like maybe the magnet from the APH-II?

 

[stratobastard]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

hmmm............invents fire, but can't install a pg.........i guess we all have our fields of expertise

 

[dr.barlo]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

Forget that "beep" sound1 Can you get a reading when you connect the black to the black and the green/bare to the red on your multimeter? If you have soldered the rd and white together you should get a KOhm reading (and before I forget, adjust your meter to the suitable KOhm spot) like 8.20-50, whatever.

If you get that that means the coils are OK. Still as GWIF said the magnet might be demagnetized. Not a biggie, magnets aren't that expensive.

But I think it has something to do with your wiring on the guitar. Even a very fine piece of wire that is hardly visible might be grounding your hot connection. Or maybe you have your caps with bare legs, then maybe they are touching the back of the pot or someting so that again your hot is grounded. But then again then you'd not have ANY output. Just make sure that this ain't happening.

It might also very well be that what Russ said did happen, I mean maybe your pot is history.

As a last resort, it is always wise to connect the pickup right into the output and see if it works or not.

Good luck.

B

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

hmmm............invents fire, but can't install a pg.........i guess we all have our fields of expertise

kiss my grits! I was just trying to help a guy out! Where is your suport? All you did was chime in and start slinging the insults around! fftopic: :fing25: :fing25: .

What exactly is your field of expertise??

 

[dr.barlo]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

kiss my grits! I was just trying to help a guy out! Where is your suport? All you did was chime in and start slinging the insults around! fftopic: :fing25: :fing25: .

What exactly is your field of expertise??

Let it go !

In fact I didn't understand his remark in the first place. You are not the one who has problems with the PG. ???



B:cool2:

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

Let it go !

In fact I didn't understand his remark in the first place. You are not the one who has problems with the PG. ???



B:cool2:

Well Doc...I'll tell you this, I just put 2 PG's my Moderne, with no problems, but I was here trying to help another Forum Brother who was having problems. BTW...it was you who got mw hooked on the Pearly Gates! I am trying to find an Alnico III magnet to try in the neck! Thanks a million for that, I love the tone of this guitar more that ever!

 

[dr.barlo]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

Sure Bro don't mention it.

I see that, and that's why I am having a hard time the meaning of the remark that stratobastard made. Was he joking, maybe I do't get his kinda humor? And no you were not he one asking for help, but the one trying to provide it. That part is clear, and that's why I don't understand.

Just don't mind it. :smoker:

Peace.

B

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

Sure Bro don't mention it.

I see that, and that's why I am having a hard time the meaning of the remark that stratobastard made. Was he joking, maybe I do't get his kinda humor? And no you were not he one asking for help, but the one trying to provide it. That part is clear, and that's why I don't understand.

Just let it go. :smoker:

Peace.

B

Advise from the Doc!

It's gone!!!

 

[stratobastard]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

kiss my grits! I was just trying to help a guy out! Where is your suport? All you did was chime in and start slinging the insults around! fftopic: :fing25: :fing25: .

What exactly is your field of expertise??

don't be so touchy......it was a joke

 

[rspst14]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

Barlo is correct. Remove the Pearly gates, and set your multimeter to measure resistance. Connect the white and red wires, then attach the black wire to one probe, and the green and bare wires to the other. You should get a reading somewhere in the 8k range. It's possible that one of the coils is bad, and that the drop in volume is because only one coil is working. Also, make sure you wrap some electrical tape around the red/white connection. It's possible that one of those wires is being unintentionally grounded against a pot or shielding paint. As long as it measures in the 8k range with your multimeter, the pickup is not bad.

Ryan

 

[tterp]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

Hey thx for the replies - it DOES meassure 7.99, so it should be allright, i don´t have the welder here anymore, hence the urgency of my first posts ill try and look into it another day

i also tried connecting it right to the jack (that normaly goes into the guitar) and then connect it to the amp (not soldering, just holding the green and the black wire against the jack), same result - it did have sound, but no where near the volume it should. I then tried the same thing with the Alnico II Pro, much more volume... - it is VERY strange...

/tterp

 

[rspst14]

Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)

Hmm, if it measures 7.99k, then the pickup is not damaged. There has to be something wrong somewhere in your wiring. What type of pickup do you have in the bridge? If you have a super high output bridge pickup, it's possible that you'd notice a volume difference. But it should defintiely not be 20 times louder than your neck pickup. I would make sure that nothing is being accidentally grounded. It's very easy for something like that to happen if you're not careful. From your description, I still think only one of the coils is active, which means one of them is being accidentally grounded somewhere in your wiring. But at least your pickup isn't damaged. It's probably a good idea to set it aside and look at it another day. After a while, your mind shuts down and sees nothing but a mess of wires, which makes it harder to fix a wiring issue.

Ryan