Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)
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fatigueofheart
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Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)
try soldering whit and red together and black and green together.....solder the black and green as your hot connection....
try soldering whit and red together and black and green together.....solder the black and green as your hot connection....
dr.barlo
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Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)
???
Then you'd not have any signal because you have to ground the bare wire + either the black or the green. In fact for example grounding the black in the bridge and green in the neck along with the other stuff that should have been done would give you the electric out of phase. But if you solder the black and green together, then you'd lose the signal completely.
So don't do it!
It may very well be that you had DiMarzio colors on your mind. :question:
Anyway, if you get a reading and the pickup is used, the possibility of it being out of phase in series in itself is not that likely. That's what I thought, it could be you know. Still you'd get a ~8.00K reading but you'd have almost no output, just a very mosquito like nasal thing.
Still it might be, I dunno. In order to find out, try connecting the green with the white or red. The remaining one to be grounded, and black is your hot. I don't remember white or red on top of my head, but there are only two possibilities. So you figure.
If it works, then that means somehow the individual coils were connected in series (since you have a reading of 8.00K) but they are out of phase. Might happen. Didn't happen to me but I kinda remember something along those lines.
BTW 8.00K PG is a great NECK HB. I have one and it works great with my other 8.35K PGb.
That's why I'd suggest that later you might wanna try it in the neck slot too.
B
fatigueofheart said:
???
Then you'd not have any signal because you have to ground the bare wire + either the black or the green. In fact for example grounding the black in the bridge and green in the neck along with the other stuff that should have been done would give you the electric out of phase. But if you solder the black and green together, then you'd lose the signal completely.
So don't do it!
It may very well be that you had DiMarzio colors on your mind. :question:
Anyway, if you get a reading and the pickup is used, the possibility of it being out of phase in series in itself is not that likely. That's what I thought, it could be you know. Still you'd get a ~8.00K reading but you'd have almost no output, just a very mosquito like nasal thing.
Still it might be, I dunno. In order to find out, try connecting the green with the white or red. The remaining one to be grounded, and black is your hot. I don't remember white or red on top of my head, but there are only two possibilities. So you figure.
If it works, then that means somehow the individual coils were connected in series (since you have a reading of 8.00K) but they are out of phase. Might happen. Didn't happen to me but I kinda remember something along those lines.
BTW 8.00K PG is a great NECK HB. I have one and it works great with my other 8.35K PGb.
That's why I'd suggest that later you might wanna try it in the neck slot too.B
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)
Hey Dr. B...what do PG's measure most of the time...I think mine are a tad on the weak side.
dr.barlo said:???
Then you'd not have any signal because you have to ground the bare wire + either the black or the green. In fact for example grounding the black in the bridge and green in the neck along with the other stuff that should have been done would give you the electric out of phase. But if you solder the black and green together, then you'd lose the signal completely.
So don't do it!
It may very well be that you had DiMarzio colors on your mind. :question:
Anyway, if you get a reading and the pickup is used, the possibility of it being out of phase in series in itself is not that likely. That's what I thought, it could be you know. Still you'd get a ~8.00K reading but you'd have almost no output, just a very mosquito like nasal thing.
Still it might be, I dunno. In order to find out, try connecting the green with the white or red. The remaining one to be grounded, and black is your hot. I don't remember white or red on top of my head, but there are only two possibilities. So you figure.
If it works, then that means somehow the individual coils were connected in series (since you have a reading of 8.00K) but they are out of phase. Might happen. Didn't happen to me but I kinda remember something along those lines.
BTW 8.00K PG is a great NECK HB. I have one and it works great with my other 8.35K PGb.
B
Hey Dr. B...what do PG's measure most of the time...I think mine are a tad on the weak side.
Russ
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Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)
...Sorry, not true. ..I have a dud Dimebucker that reads over 17K. ..I've tried it in my other guitars & it sounds nothing like a Dime that works. ..No bass - it sounds like a clock radio! ..It reads 17k+ but it's still a dud, even with having reasonable 'k' reading. ..Probably just a wire inside the pup is out of place?rspst14 said:
rspst14
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Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)
There will always be some variance between two pickups of the same model. It's possible you just don't like it in that particular guitar. I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's safe to say a pickup is in good working condition if it measures okay. If one of the pickup wires was bad, you wouldn't get a correct reading. You also wouldn't get the correct reading if the windings were damaged.
Ryan
Russ said:
There will always be some variance between two pickups of the same model. It's possible you just don't like it in that particular guitar. I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's safe to say a pickup is in good working condition if it measures okay. If one of the pickup wires was bad, you wouldn't get a correct reading. You also wouldn't get the correct reading if the windings were damaged.
Ryan
SemperRhythm
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Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)
This same thing happened to me about a year ago. I bought a JB new and installed it. When I switched to the JB I had about 1/4 the output of the Jazz neck and it sounded like a weak single coil. Very bright with no low end. I re-installed that thing 3 times and to no avail (and, I can solder...). Put the Custom back in... worked fine. All the coils measured the correct resistance and was wired correctly. By the time I thought through it and racked my brain the 21 days were up and I couldn't return it. It sat around here until last week when I sent it to MJ for a rewind to S-Deco-5 specs.
Anyway... several people on the board have had this happen over the last year or so to a variety of SD pickups. I have no clue what it is. All I can think is weak/bad mags.
If you have an extra mag laying around and know how to do it, try putting another magnet in it.
Nathan
This same thing happened to me about a year ago. I bought a JB new and installed it. When I switched to the JB I had about 1/4 the output of the Jazz neck and it sounded like a weak single coil. Very bright with no low end. I re-installed that thing 3 times and to no avail (and, I can solder...). Put the Custom back in... worked fine. All the coils measured the correct resistance and was wired correctly. By the time I thought through it and racked my brain the 21 days were up and I couldn't return it. It sat around here until last week when I sent it to MJ for a rewind to S-Deco-5 specs.
Anyway... several people on the board have had this happen over the last year or so to a variety of SD pickups. I have no clue what it is. All I can think is weak/bad mags.
If you have an extra mag laying around and know how to do it, try putting another magnet in it.
Nathan
dr.barlo
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Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)
None of the PGb's I have seen measured more than 8.35K. And as I said I have gone through plenty of them, like 10 or so. The PGb's that I kept measure: 8.35K; 8.20K; 8.05K; 8.00K (<--- a great neck pickup ). I don't know if it is relevant or not, but I also have a 8.75K PG+ and that is one hell of a pickup. I am using 8.35K and 8.00K together (the other set is that 8.75K PG+ bridge and 8.05 (both white-actually bridge is parchment and neck is white but anyway) PGb in the neck.)
B
the guy who invented fire said:
None of the PGb's I have seen measured more than 8.35K.
And as I said I have gone through plenty of them, like 10 or so. The PGb's that I kept measure: 8.35K; 8.20K; 8.05K; 8.00K (<--- a great neck pickup ). I don't know if it is relevant or not, but I also have a 8.75K PG+ and that is one hell of a pickup. I am using 8.35K and 8.00K together (the other set is that 8.75K PG+ bridge and 8.05 (both white-actually bridge is parchment and neck is white but anyway) PGb in the neck.)B
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Lewguitar
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Re: Need Help right away! (installed PG and (almost) no sound)
That'll just short the pickup out.
Black and white should be soldered together but black would normally go the switch or input of the volume pot and green is the universal color for ground, so it would go to your ground connection: usually soldered to the back of the volume pot.
BTW, is the volume pot grounded or attached in some way to the ground of the output jack? It HAS to be!
Lew
fatigueofheart said:
That'll just short the pickup out.
Black and white should be soldered together but black would normally go the switch or input of the volume pot and green is the universal color for ground, so it would go to your ground connection: usually soldered to the back of the volume pot.
BTW, is the volume pot grounded or attached in some way to the ground of the output jack? It HAS to be!
Lew
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