Need help with the right amp

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Conker09

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Ever since I started playing i've always used cheap little solid state practice amps. Right now i'm using a Marshall MG30DFX.

I was looking at the Peavey Classic 50 212. Anyone have any experience with those? My whole family are musicians pretty much and they've always used peavey, but they don't play guitar. I would like to be able to go from a classic rock/Zeppelin sound to something like a newer Green Day sound , not that extreme distorted sound (and I can't afford a Marshall).

2 cents encouraged.

PS: I play a Schecter s-1 elite with the JB/Jazz.
 
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If you wanna save a lot of cash, Spider Valve is the way to go. Tons of different sounds in a hybrid amp.

That said, Peavey Classics aren't too bad--I just don't see why you'd wanna stick with a trend. :)
 
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Trend?

I don't know anything about trends. I've just liked the peavey's i've played and therefore looked at peavey tube amps that were affordable for me.
 
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the classic 50 is a great amp. i used to have one of the 4x10 versions. you should be able to get the tones out of one that you mentioned. if not you could always set it clean and use some kind of od or distortion pedal. that is how i ran mine. alot of people complain about peavey but they make some great products at good prices. the only reason i own a marshall jvm now and not a peavey 3120 is because i got it cheaper than i could the peavey.
 
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Conker09 said:
Trend?

I don't know anything about trends. I've just liked the peavey's i've played and therefore looked at peavey tube amps that were affordable for me.
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Trend as in one of the other definitions of the word.
 
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serizawa said:
If you wanna save a lot of cash, Spider Valve is the way to go. Tons of different sounds in a hybrid amp.

That said, Peavey Classics aren't too bad--I just don't see why you'd wanna stick with a trend. :)
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Having owned several Peavey tube amps (most notable being the Classic 50 4x10, the Classic 50 2x12, and the Delta Blues 2x10) and having owned a few Line 6 products and testing the Spider Valve out in store, I'd *never* suggest a Spider Valve over a Classic 50 especially for the sounds he said he was going for.

The Classic 50's are solid amps. Great tone, very usable overdrive channel (tough to find on some two channel amps in that price range *cough* Fender *cough*), and they are built like a rock. You can't break them. I highly recommend the Peavey Classic series (the Delta Blues on the other hand...that's a whole other story)
 
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No doubt, I won't disagree about Fender's 2 channel amps, not so good unless you get them modded.

However, I'm no fan of the Peavey's second channel, either. Which is why I suggest a Spider Valve. I don't own one either, but I've played plenty of them. Cranked, they still sound semi-decent. And as far as I know, they're cheaper, which the OP hinted at that being a plus.
 
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I'm just not a fan of the valve spiders. They still sound like a digital amp to me, and that sound is just not the same. I'd go the extra distance for a real all tube amp that actually starts with good tone without having to introduce some gimmicky digital processor. *shrug* my $.02
 
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You want Marshall-esque sound in a Peavey look at the Windsor.
 
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You want a Marshall-esque sound in a Marshall look at the Haze 40.
 
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FuseG4 said:
You want a Marshall-esque sound in a Marshall look at the Haze 40.
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I always forget about these, probably because I've never really seen one. They're definitely a cool new offering--probably sound pretty decent, too.
 
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I have a Marshall Haze 40 in the room right next to me. It does the classic Seventies British Marshall overdrive with a Les Paul thang. What, in my opinion, it cannot do is full-on Marshall TSL levels of gain. So, to combine the Page/Kossoff/Ralphs-type sounds with Green Day, I suggest the Haze 40 and either a distortion pedal or a level booster.
 
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You'd need a pedal for the higher gainiac stuff with a Peavey C-50, too. Still, a sound guy recently told me my C-50 sounded better than our other guitarist's TSL half stack.:)

Warmer and smoother.

Like Wattage said, look at the Windsor. Hell, you can get a half stack for less than 500 bones nowadays. Budget JCM 800 with much higher gain than the C-50.
 
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That's why I was suggesting an amp like one of those Spyder solid/hybrid amps. They've got everything built in and definitely sound alright.

If you can find one of those Hughes and Kettner solid state combos, pick it up. They're incredible--do absolutely everything except for Death Metal, I imagine. Some of them even respond like tubes amps, with master volumes and presence control.
 
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serizawa said:
That's why I was suggesting an amp like one of those Spyder solid/hybrid amps. They've got everything built in and definitely sound alright.

If you can find one of those Hughes and Kettner solid state combos, pick it up. They're incredible--do absolutely everything except for Death Metal, I imagine. Some of them even respond like tubes amps, with master volumes and presence control.
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These are good amps, but there's something they won't do...when a tube amp has been played at stage volumes for more than an hour or so, it starts to really go into the sweet spot, and a solid state amp won't do that.

They sound the same after four hours as they did when first turned on.

And, just speaking for myself, I'd rather have a great tube amp that does a couple of sounds REALLY well, and a couple of choice pedals than to have a sim of every amp ever to be coveted by the masses.
 
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Wattage said:
You want Marshall-esque sound in a Peavey look at the Windsor.
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I had actually looked at these before, but were reading too many negative reviews about it not being very durable.

Good stuff though, thanks for all the input. The more the better.

I do have a Boss BD-2 and an SD-1 which I plan on modding myself, so I do have the pedals to boost for some gain if need be. Does anyone here have one they could post sound bites from? I've been checking youtube, but i'm not really finding a great vid representing a wide enough range of sounds. Most people are only showing 1 setting.
 
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Maybe look at some of the 15 watt lunchbox style stuff like the tiny terror (the dual terror might get you alot of those marshall tones your after as long as you dont need super clean cleans) or the new Egnater Tweaker heaps of threads on either of them. That said lots of praise for the Peavey Classic series and the Fender Blues Junior although I'm not sure either really have a great marshall tone but they are good tube amps to start out on.
 
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James Rock said:
Maybe look at some of the 15 watt lunchbox style stuff like the tiny terror (the dual terror might get you alot of those marshall tones your after as long as you dont need super clean cleans) or the new Egnater Tweaker heaps of threads on either of them. That said lots of praise for the Peavey Classic series and the Fender Blues Junior although I'm not sure either really have a great marshall tone but they are good tube amps to start out on.
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I've thought about a tiny terror. I do love orange amps, though most are much too expensive for me. The tiny terror is even a little too pricy for me. Keep in mind, I would need to buy the cab as well as the head.

I'm scared of getting a 15w amp because my cousin, who I play with, will most likely be getting a 50w amp and I don't want him overbearing my little amp.
 
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Conker09 said:
Ever since I started playing i've always used cheap little solid state practice amps. Right now i'm using a Marshall MG30DFX.

I was looking at the Peavey Classic 50 212. Anyone have any experience with those? My whole family are musicians pretty much and they've always used peavey, but they don't play guitar. I would like to be able to go from a classic rock/Zeppelin sound to something like a newer Green Day sound , not that extreme distorted sound (and I can't afford a Marshall).

2 cents encouraged.

PS: I play a Schecter s-1 elite with the JB/Jazz.
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I use my Peavey Classic 50 and Classic 30 way more then i do my Marshalls-(JCM 800 head and TSL-100).... The Peavey classic's sound good for most rock... they have that edgey classic rock grind to them and i love boosting them with a pedal for solos... Plus the cleans are really great and takes Fuzz and Distortions pedals well for just about any style you want...

the fact they can cover more sounds then my Marshalls is why i use them more... and they cost a lot less then my Marshalls did!!!!....
 
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I'd look for something different than a Peavey, just to contrast with those you play with.

Ampeg? Vox? each has it's virtues. Get a good foundation amp and then use pedals. .

the journey is it's own reward, but find out at the guitar store when to come so that there aren't so many jammers. .
 
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