New Amp Day!

80's_Metal

Underglazed Hair Metalologist
Got this off reverb tonight.... So I am now an official EG-head.

I've Spent 40 minutes with it tonight, right out of the box, and am very pleased so far.

Initial Thoughts:
Footswitch controls many things, from channel, to solo level, reverb, adds or subtracts mids from both channels and effects loop levels for each channel!

There are many voice changes by changing the mid switches.

When you turn it up, it Really Roars.

Dropped tuning sounds really good.

It's way different voicing than a Marshall or a Mesa or a Peavey, it's very much an individual sound.

There is the tiniest fluzzy/buzzy high freq in the speakers if I have it turned pretty low and the brightness too high.

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Specs:
Vengeance Features and Technical Information

120-Watt All Tube Head
Selectable Full / Half Power
Premium Tubes:
4 x el34
6 x 12AX7
Two Independent Channels each With:
Volume, Gain and 3-band EQ
Tight and Bright Voicing Switches
Mid Cut/Boost Voicing Switch
High/Low Gain Switch
Independent Reverb Controls with “Spillover”
Master Controls:
Presence & Density
Main and Secondary Master Volumes
Six Button Footswitch Connects Via a Standard XLR Cable
Channel Select, Channel 1 Mids, Channel 2 Mids, Effects Loop, Reverb and 2nd Master Volume
Assign the Effects Loop and 2nd Master to Channel 1, Channel 2 or Both
Additional ¼” Jacks for External Control of Switching Functions
Simple Bias Adjust with External Test Points
XLR Cabinet Emulating Line / Record Output
Buffered Effects Loop with Send and Return Levels
117V/230V Voltage Selector
Dimensions: 9.25”(Depth) x 28.25” (Width) x 10.25” (Height)
Weight: 48 lbs.
 
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I can't help but wonder how long you'll keep it.

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Was just playing the RH200 that I got from you a few years ago.
Can't understand why you got rid of that, but, my gain.

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That Vengeance has a great scooped sound.

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Worked with it for almost an hour last night.
Got a few tones closer to dialed in.

Here's a taste, please excuse the sloppy playing.

Settings
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So when I emailed the tech guy about valve assignments, he sent me this:

I am assuming that if I want to change the gain in the dirty channel (2) then I need to swap new tubes into V3 and V4.

Am I reading this correctly?

Or do I swap different tubes into V1 and V3 and V4?
 
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I am assuming that if I want to change the gain in the dirty channel (2) then I need to swap new tubes into V3 and V4.

Am I reading this correctly?

Or do I swap different tubes into V1 and V3 and V4?

What tubes does it have now? If it's running something like Rubys or Tung-Sols, there may not be much of anything available with higher gain. The Egnater OEM tubes in my Tweaker were Sovtek 12AX7As, and those would leave you with several higher-gain options.

Based on that diagram, V1 is going to have the most effect so I would plan on swapping it unless your "clean" channel is already too dirty. Swapping V3 and V4 alone should help, but it won't make much difference if there isn't a strong enough signal from V1A.
 
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It's wearing Egnater branded Ruby's in all but 3and4. Those are sovtek or Tung Sol's I looked yesterday and can't remember now
 
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I got to spend some alone time with it tonight, replaced V1 with a brand new Mullard. It's hotter for sure.
The amp was sounding a bit brittle, after new tube, rebias of power tubes (set them a touch higher) and some adjustments here and there she is sounding much better indeed. I am starting to really like this amp.
It has some features that I really like, for instance the effects loop is set up to be jumpered with just a switch, to add a solo boost it's adjustable with knobs on back of the amp. But there's also a second master volume switch in the footswitch that you can use as a solo boost or a whole other volume setting. I can see cool uses for that playing live.
There's a switch hidden inside the amp, unlabeled, had to look into it whereas given the nature of crappy tubes this switch does some sort of magical emulation of a tube sound or something... Anyhow it was switched on, and I switched it off because I just put brand new tubes in it.
Sounds better now.


It will take any number of different power tubes, kt66 or kt77, el34, 6l6 , 6550, 6v6 etc.

Reverb is useable, much more so than any other reverb I've ever used, sounds very natural for some reason.

Anyhow, just sharing info about this amp, as I go through it.
 
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