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What genres would those be? Because after some 20-odd years of listening and playing metal, hanging around other people listening to grind and death and black and for about ten or fifteen years owning an MT2, I'm yet to meet anyone who actually thought using one was a good idea [emoji1]
Well, I suppose that I just associate with people who are even more extreme and further underground.


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One of the Cannibal Corpse guys used a MT2 for many years.

Many guys don't get that it's not for Van Halen, Boston, Judas Priest or even Metallica. You want it for downright brutal **** like Nile, Carcass, At the Gates or something. Pantera is the light side of the spectrum of a MT2. That's why I won't use one, but I get what it's about.

Also, Ola Englund already did a video on the Waza MT2 and it sounds excellent for what it is.
 
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Name one song with chorus that sounds good. You can't. It doesn't exist.

I was about to, but I realized ironic thing is that the two first songs that I thought of used pedals that are technically flangers. XD
 
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One of the Cannibal Corpse guys used a MT2 for many years.

Many guys don't get that it's not for Van Halen, Boston, Judas Priest or even Metallica. You want it for downright brutal **** like Nile, Carcass, At the Gates or something. Pantera is the light side of the spectrum of a MT2. That's why I won't use one, but I get what it's about.

Also, Ola Englund already did a video on the Waza MT2 and it sounds excellent for what it is.

Didn't most of those bands use something along the lines of straight up 5150 + V30, possibly with a TS808 in front?

Also, maybe unpopular opinionen, but I thought Olga's demo of it still sounded awful. Though evidently, it seems to have struck a chord with people.
 
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I also hate chorus and wish it would be disinvented and deleted forever from music. I sometimes use phaser and flanger but for extremely specific purposes, none having much to do with my own musical creation. Covers, as they call them.

Why would anyone prefer that plasticky, tiny sounding crap over a Rotary Speaker sim or even a Univibe is beyond me. And I own a CE2 so I might know what I'm talking about. As a chorus it's excellent, but I struggled with it and I much prefer Leslies or something. Thick and juicy sounding.
 
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Well, a Dimension doesn't exactly sound like a regular chorus...it is wider in a way, with a lot less modulation- almost a true doubler, and it works on a lot of other instruments like keys, bass, & vocals, where a chorus pedal wouldn't.
 
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I was about to, but I realized ironic thing is that the two first songs that I thought of used pedals that are technically flangers. XD

It’s all the same. Just delay time and regen differences.
 
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Well, a Dimension doesn't exactly sound like a regular chorus...it is wider in a way, with a lot less modulation- almost a true doubler, and it works on a lot of other instruments like keys, bass, & vocals, where a chorus pedal wouldn't.
I find that the Dimension C on its 4th and most modulated setting has MORE modulation than any other chorus unit? I love that all 4 presets are totally usable with no fuss or adjustment necessary. Definitely agree that it is usable with more than just guitar.
Not arguing here...more like intrigued by the Mincer description?

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Many guys don't get that it's not for Van Halen, Boston, Judas Priest or even Metallica. You want it for downright brutal **** like Nile, Carcass, At the Gates or something. Pantera is the light side of the spectrum of a MT2. That's why I won't use one, but I get what it's about.
Dimebag never used a Metal Zone. :confused:

I'm not sure about Carcass, but at least from Heartwork on, they've used fancy schmancy tube amps.

At the Gates did use to use one along with an HM-2 for Slaughter of the Soul. But then, they went all Mr. Fancypants and started using tube amps, lol.
 
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Dimebag never used a Metal Zone. :confused:

I'm not sure about Carcass, but at least from Heartwork on, they've used fancy schmancy tube amps.

At the Gates did use to use one along with an HM-2 for Slaughter of the Soul. But then, they went all Mr. Fancypants and started using tube amps, lol.

Not saying it was their secret recipe or something. But that's the ballpark a MT2 set with care and good ears will get you in. Marty Friedman used a MT2 in Dragon's Kiss but IMO that album had some awful tones so it doesn't really count as a fine example.
 
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Regarding both chorus and the MT-2, what defines great tone is completely subjective. One person's garbage is another's Grail.

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Regarding both chorus and the MT-2, what defines great tone is completely subjective. One person's garbage is another's Grail.

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Quite True.
Also most of the time,when I buy stuff based of utube clips,it rarely sounds similar.
Probably due to inferior gear/skills and post mixing.
 
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At this point I'm starting to expect them to release a NS-2w. Waza already has a version of the Boss Chromatic Tuner.
 
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Well, that is at least a tiny indication of what it'll sound like with distortion.
 
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He describes the 'not really chorus' thing really well.
I find it interesting to make a living out of gear demos. He does it well, but it is still interesting to me.
 
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He describes the 'not really chorus' thing really well.
I find it interesting to make a living out of gear demos. He does it well, but it is still interesting to me.

Mostly of these guys are still musicians first and foremost, but they do demos to supplement. For example, Pete is a sideman for quite a few artists, plus his own solo stuff. I wonder what their revenue is from YouTube, over and above the compensation for doing the demo.
 
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yeah! i thought about waiting a few months to see if i can get a used one for cheaper, but i could really use this for a current project, and i doubt they'll be significantly cheaper once they start showing up on the used market ("they" being the 2w models - i'm guessing the originals will remain expensive).

EDIT: whoops, this was i response to B2D's post, but it looks like the quote functiom didn't work for me.
 
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