New Fenders at NAMM

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what would you expect? A new guitar idea hasn't come out in years and an entirely fresh one hasn't come out in decades.
 
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Good for me other than they are Squiers. I really like the middle one, I'll take it lefty and do my best Joe Perry.
 
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those last two are crappy looking. that top one looks alright, but where is all the cool controls that give it its original flexibility? thats really what i yearn for, all those tonal possibilities...
 
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Indie P Bass said:
what would you expect? A new guitar idea hasn't come out in years and an entirely fresh one hasn't come out in decades.

Steinbergers, Parkers, Kleins, Tueffels, Lightwave bases, Variax...the new designs are out there, its the conservative guitar buying public that keeps buying the same guitar styles over and over again.
 
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I couldn't care less about those Squires, but I'm dying to see what the response is like for the new Digital Modeling Les Paul Standard. And let me guess?? $6000?
 
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Mincer said:
Steinbergers, Parkers, Kleins, Tueffels, Lightwave bases, Variax...the new designs are out there, its the conservative guitar buying public that keeps buying the same guitar styles over and over again.

except for the steinberer and parkers... I havne't seen too many of the others... but, most guitars either look like A) a fender or B) a gibson... it makes me sad. oh! and C) PRS

but... perhaps the conservative guitar buying public are buying these same guitar designs becuase they are tried and true. These companies aren't around to innovate, but to make money. And innovation beyond new pickups or wiring or stuff like that doesn't make much cash. I mean... fender's had a ton of "innovative" models, and all of them have been disontinued. Remember the Bullet Bass? The Musicmaster guitars? yeah. Those were innovative at one point. Now they're dead.
 
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gee... :smack: the Jagmaster's kinda nice but the other 2 are terrible mutants...

they should really re-issue the Supersonic (looks like an inverted Jaguar)...
 
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i think the buying public is marketed to in a way that showcases heritage and history, as opposed to better ways of doing things. you are right, it is about making money- fender can sell mutants of their standard line because of advertising, and people believing it. Those models you mentioned were mutants too- just a variation on a theme. Parker sells guitars, so does Godin, and Steinberger, and Music Man....they found that yes, there are better ways than re-gurgitating the same thing over and over. Fender stopped being revolutionary in 1954. At least Gibson has a different idea in the digital guitar, although the price and marketing is way off base.
 
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After reading "50 Years Of Fender", it seems this is pretty common. Since the late 50's Fender has been tweaking, modifying and mutating the standard body shapes. Most last in the catalog a few years and then quietly dissapear, these seem no different to me. I think the purpose they really serve is to stir some lower end interest in guitars, and then to have players upgrade to the more expensive lines.

The thing is....you can probably get some decent tones out of them for the $$....but they aren't very visually appealing....at least to me.
 
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I kinda like those bottom two. It reminds me of these USA Custom guitars, which I didn't see until I had already ordered my swamp ash Warmoth strat with a twangbanger. Had I seen these before, it would have been a tough decision:

[I do think the USACG look better than the Squires]



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The remind me of a Telecaster bass:


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have you all seen the new stuff on fenders website? I kinda like the baritone jaguar, and they put a pick guard on the telecaster HH!.... I really want one now

they also put in different stock pickups.
 
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Apart from the fact that they are cheapo squiers, I like 'em. This style is hardly new, though:

Robin makes a guitar with the tele bass pickguard called the ranger. Those guitars are basically variations on that design:

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Jackson did a soloist for Jeff Beck with a variation of that idea, and charvel later released a version of it called the spectrum:

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Kramer did something similar for Elliot Easton of the Cars (Tom Anderson built Elliot's personal kramers):

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I had the idea copied for my custom built strat, commissioned in 1990 (look between the bald Scottish guy and my elbow):

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Elliot Easton on his signature Kramer (good read):

That was something that I designed with Tom Anderson, who's a fine builder. The guy who was running Kramer at the time, Dennis Berardi, loved to hang around rock bands; I don't know any other way to put it. He was a nice guy, and he offered me the opportunity to design my own signature instrument. I took it as a challenge to come up with something for Kramer that had more of a traditional vibe. At the time, they didn't offer a guitar that didn't have a Floyd Rose. So I designed a guitar with a Tele-style bridge. It was available in two models: The Tele bridge and Seymour Duncan Quarter-Pounder system with a five-way switch for a lot of sounds, or with a humbucking-single-single pickup setup with a Floyd Rose. I thought such a guitar might have some appeal to country players and roots rockers who might go for the Tele configuration.

Looks-wise, I was inspired at the time by that orange Jackson guitar Jeff Beck was playing around the time of his Flash album. I wanted something that looked like it could have existed, but didn't. The pickguard on the Kramer is an example; Fender could have done that with their Tele, but didn't.

Mick Jagger played one of the Tom Anderson-built prototypes in the Mixed Emotions video. Tom built fabulous guitars, and I can't honestly say that the production guitars had the "magic" of the Anderson-built ones. That's not to put Kramer down, but you're talking about two completely different setups; one is an artist in a small shop, building one guitar at a time, the other is a huge factory, which by its very definition has to turn out a lot of instruments. In effect, Fender has gotten around the same potential problem by offering the Custom Shop; they don't ask you to expect the same thing out of a Mexican-built Strat as one that Jay Black builds for you (chuckles).
 
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