New Line 6 Helix STADIUM (and a bunch of confused guys in hats!)

[Masta' C]

I'm surprised no one is talking about this...

The Stadium series is the first new Helix flagship to come out of Line 6 in a decade!

I mean, it's all over the other guitar forums and there are a LOT of confused looking, scruffy dudes in hats pointing at it in Youtube thumbnails, so it MUST be a big thing!

 

[Mincer]

My god, I hate videos like this and refuse to watch that crap.

From the ad copy, the Helix platform has become more of a 'guitar workstation' than striving for absolute accuracy down to the resistor like Fractal. It really is a different product. I don't think it will replace my Fractal, but if I didn't have a working studio in my house where I practice, learn and record tunes, I might consider it.

 

[donaldr]

Not the kind of video I'm interested in and I personally don't care about their opinion.

 

[Masta' C]

The thumbnail collage was just for fun.

New Line 6 hardware looks awesome, though! Just can't get on with the prices these days...yeesh! :eyecrazy:

 

[Mincer]

I agree..it does something that is different in the flooded marketplace of modelers, essentially replacing a PC and phone as well as an amp and pedals. I am interested to see where it goes. I love my other Line 6 pedals- DL4, DL4 mk 2, M13, M9 & HX Effects.

 

[Seashore]

I would love to play around with one of these. I'm a fan of Line 6 too. I haven't tried amp modeling in a few years. But yeah the price... way out of my budget. If I was buying a new rig from scratch and the sound quality and playing feel were there, it would be a tough choice between something like this and a "real amp", but considering I'm already bought in with a couple of tube amps, there's no point.

Splash screens like those are close to a guarantee that I won't click on the video. I hate what marketing has become. I always hated marketing but social media made it so much worse.

 

[Mincer]

Splash screens like those are close to a guarantee that I won't click on the video. I hate what marketing has become. I always hated marketing but social media made it so much worse.

Now, I am not a huge fan of AI, but I will certainly cheer when it replaces the people who make these kinds of videos.

 

[Seashore]

Now, I am not a huge fan of AI, but I will certainly cheer when it replaces the people who make these kinds of videos.

When you put it that way, it makes me worry if we'll miss it when it's gone. AI left to its own devices so far seems to make every creative endeavor worse. But maybe the schadenfreude will make up for it.

 

[misterwhizzy]

Jon from Sonic Drive Studios was a member here. His videos are pretty milquetoast, but he seemed like a good dude.

 

[Mincer]

When you put it that way, it makes me worry if we'll miss it when it's gone. AI left to its own devices so far seems to make every creative endeavor worse. But maybe the schadenfreude will make up for it.

My point is that people can get back to using gear to make music instead of making or watching videos about the gear used to make it. AI video is getting better, and as soon as companies can design AI videos that spew marketing-speak exactly the way they want it to be said, they'll jump on it.

 

[Seashore]

My point is that people can get back to using gear to make music instead of making or watching videos about the gear used to make it. AI video is getting better, and as soon as companies can design AI videos that spew marketing-speak exactly the way they want it to be said, they'll jump on it.

I don't think I see it working out that way. The reviewers will still have social incentives to make videos like that and companies will probably still have marketing incentives to get them to do it - a seal of approval from real humans. They'll just all be competing for attention against a larger and larger proportion of AI slop and it'll be harder to separate the wheat from the chaff (insofar as any of it isn't chaff to begin with). People watch this kind of stuff for entertainment as much as anything else, and they're not just going to change their watching habits or start putting all that time back into music - it's most likely not time they'd be spending on playing music anyway. I can see AI displacing some of this kind of marketing, but not for the better.

 

[Mincer]

Honestly, I don't think people will care if it is an actual person doing the 'review'. You are right, it is entertainment, and as long as the viewer is entertained and learns something, however small, they won't care.
People don't care about CGI in movies, and you will have 'fans' of AI 'reviewers' just like real people do. None of this is for the better, in terms of music actually being made.

People would rather watch streams of video games than play the game themselves. I doubt they are attached to human influencers for very long.

 

[RanchManSandy]

People would rather watch streams of video games than play the game themselves.

People would rather watch televised football games than play football themselves. What's your point?

 

[Mincer]

People would rather watch televised football games than play football themselves. What's your point?

Its more fun to just play. That's my point.

 

[Masta' C]

Bring up the most powerful Line 6 modeler to come out in a decade and there's more interest in discussing YT content and AI instead...classic SDUGF, ha ha!

:lmao:

 

[Mincer]

Bring up the most powerful Line 6 modeler to come out in a decade and there's more interest in discussing YT content and AI instead...classic SDUGF, ha ha!

:lmao:

We never disappoint!

 

[RanchManSandy]

Its more fun to just play. That's my point.

Is that not entirely subjective? I can shred a bit, but I can't shred like Herman Li, so I enjoy watching his streams sometimes more than playing. I can't speedrun Mario 64 blindfolded, but I'll sure watch someone do it. Heck, I'll watch a *dog* speedrun Gyromite. And I love playing video grames. Saying "it's more fun to play" is reductive.

 

[Mincer]

Watching videos of people talk about gear (especially, like above, they all cover the same thing, use the same angles, and jeeze, even look the same) has little to do with actually using the gear profiled to make interesting music.
I understand that we all have watched videos about doing the very things that we want to do. At some point though, the leap should be made, or just be a consumer of this slop clogging up the internet.

 

[Masta' C]

...and jeeze, even look the same)...

Yeah, that part cracked me up. Even the thumbnails from other countries/languages adopt the same aesthetic. I guess it works.

Only problem is, now I'm wondering if I can really be taken seriously as a guitarist...my scruff game sucks and I don't like wearing hats.

#identitycrisis :lmao:

 

[Mincer]

Yeah, that part cracked me up. Even the thumbnails from other countries/languages adopt the same aesthetic. I guess it works.

Only problem is, now I'm wondering if I can really be taken seriously as a guitarist...my scruff game sucks and I don't like wearing hats.

#identitycrisis :lmao:

It might have worked at one time, but as I talk to players, it seems their social media is flooded with videos like this for all kinds of gear. All of the influencers chase trends and seem to have the same script (and thumbnails making some sort of 'confused' or 'mad' face). It gets overwhelming, like having 2000 guitar magazines to choose from.