New Slash 'Burstbuckers' Versus SD Slash pups?

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How do the new 2020 Gibson Slash Burstbuckers compare to the SD Slash pups?
I have a Slash LP coming and am curious if I will need to upgrade the pups.
 
I haven't seen a comparison of them yet on this board. Like many guitars, I'd live with the stock pickups for awhile to get a sense of what you would change about them. My guess is that Gibson didn't want to use SD pickups in the new Slash model, and even Slash couldn't demand what pickups were in that guitar.
 
How do the new 2020 Gibson Slash Burstbuckers compare to the SD Slash pups?
I have a Slash LP coming and am curious if I will need to upgrade the pups.

I've spent some time with the Slahbuckers. They're in my friends Les Paul. They're not dead-on replicas of the SD slash set. With that being said, my friend's bridge read 8.9k and the neck was 8.3k and I like them a lot.

The bridge is a damn good rock pickup. Good low end for an A2 pickup and it's balanced. He ran his LP into a jcm 800 and it sounded killer. It's probably my favorite Gibson made humbucker.
 
gsammo79 that's great to know! I read the entire previous thread that was mostly conjecture, I think it was your comment that said the bridge was great but the neck not so much? I'm not looking for Slash tone just a good hard Rock tone with plenty of mids and clarity!


Mincer that's a good idea!
 
gsammo79 that's great to know! I read the entire previous thread that was mostly conjecture, I think it was your comment that said the bridge was great but the neck not so much? I'm not looking for Slash tone just a good hard Rock tone with plenty of mids and clarity!

The neck pickup is just *decent* imo. I didnt use it much in the 2 or 3 hours I test drove that guitar.

The mids are perfect on the bridge pickup (for me). The high end isnt piercing or too bright. Very balanced. My first thought was "I could use this pickup for just about anything" I'm into. Not too hot but not at all lacking output. Tell us what you think once you get some time
 
I have never played the Gibson Slashbuckers. I have always been a die hard 57'/57'Plus set guy. While I love SD pickups and have them in many guitars, I have always personally loved Gibson pickups when it comes to that PAF type tone, and the 57/57 plus have always been their best (modern) version of it, and why wouldn't they be, they are the pickups that are built to Seth Lover's specs. I realize I am very likely the only person who feels this way, at least on this particular forum, but when it comes to tone, it's all up to what YOUR OWN ear hears and likes best, and I LOVE the 57's

I just ordered some SD APH-2's (Slash Set), along with a JB/Jazz set, and a Gibson 57'/57" plus set, to try out in my newly aquired Les Paul Standard. The guitar came with Gibson Burstbucker Pro Treble, and Burstbucker Pro Rhythm pickups, which were good sounding pickups, but ultimately not my cup of tea especially considering this is now my GO TO guitar. The BB Pro's have Alnico V magnets, and one thing I know for sure is that I prefer HANDS DOWN a humbucker with Alinico 2's. So, after receiving my 3 new pickup sets, if I'm honest, I was really surprised to find that the SD APH-2's were all but identical to my ears to the 57'/57' Plus Gibson's, and if I had to pick one, I'd still pick the 57' set. Instead of Sending the APH-2's back, I decided to put them in the Epi LP Custom I gave to my son a while back and it sounds beautiful now, a definite HUGE improvement over the Epi Probuckers that came in that guitar when I bought it, and Even my son remarked that he feels his guitar sounds more like Dad's gibson now and he loves them. Give yourself some time would be my 2 cents, and don't get caught up in the hype to the point where you believe a pickup MUST be inferior simply because it was the one that came in the guitar. There are PLENTY of pickups that come in quality guitars that ARE QUALITY great sounding pickups. And ultimately, nevermind what brand the pickups are, the goal is that you want a set of pickups that make your guitar sound great to YOU. If they succeed in that, then they are truly grand!
 
I would guess that the Alnico II Pros are a big improvement in the Epiphone. Make sure you come back and let us know how those Slash pickups sound in the LP. It is such a classic sound, and really great across a huge amount of gain ranges.
 
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SZjammin83 is correct, Gibson 57's are pretty darn nice.
 
I'm a big fan of the '57 Classics too. Great pickups. I had a set in one of my parts-o-casters some years back and they sounded amazing. But my crazy swapping self went another direction with that guitar. My LP Trad Pro has the '57 in the neck and it's staying. Came stock with a BB3 in the bridge but I pulled that. After trying the Perpetual Burn and Super Distortion, the Custom Custom is the right pickup for that LP.
 
FWIW I posted a clip from youtube comparing the SD Slash set with Gibson 57s in another thread and I think the SD Slash set sounded much more articulate. The 57s sounded a bit honky in the mids.

Gibson pickups are excellent but I'd use SDs if I had the choice.
 
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I haven't seen a comparison of them yet on this board. Like many guitars, I'd live with the stock pickups for awhile to get a sense of what you would change about them. My guess is that Gibson didn't want to use SD pickups in the new Slash model, and even Slash couldn't demand what pickups were in that guitar.


Wow. Gibson Brands Inc. is an interesting company in financial circles. Hasn’t Slash always used Seymour Duncan? :(
 
Wow. Gibson Brands Inc. is an interesting company in financial circles. Hasn’t Slash always used Seymour Duncan? :(

Yes he has. But for some reason (I don't think we will know the true story), he went with Gibson pickups in his signature LP. My guess is that Gibson insisted everything needed to be made in-house.
 
I upgraded from the Gibson Slash buckers to the SD Slash set. The Slash Bridge is a good rock pup, not amazing but good -better than the Gibson one in terms of note clarity. The Neck is super creamy, as good as it gets!
 
im sure the reason slash went with the gibson pups is money.

what did you think of the slashbuckers? put a meter on em?
 
I'm currently waiting on some 'Slash' BBs to come to me. They're second hand and I'll be trying them in a guitar with no tone controls, so I can't vouch for how they may sound with the special capacitors that Gibson are claiming the stock guitars come with, and I can't say I'm looking forward tot hem exactly, but I have a long history with the various BB models so I need to complete the collection.

Of course I'll reserve statements about their sound until I've actually played with them, but seeing this thread did remind me of a strange quote in an interview I read about the Slash guitars earlier this year:
“We started with a [Gibson] Burstbucker and then we modified it to carry an Alnico II magnet, which is what Slash loves playing. And the winding of the coils is offset - it’s not the exact same number of rounds per bobbin. So you get that vintage PAF feel, but with the addition of the Alnico IIs. Which is the Slash sound.”
This raises several questions and is why I'm not particularly looking forward to trying them. I have a feeling they're just a standard Burstbucker #2 and #3 set but exclusively made uncovered and potted. (And possibly within tighter tolerances.)
The Gibson Burstbucker #1, #2 and #3 already do use A2 magnets and are massively mismatched. They also tend to vary a lot unit-to-unit, so each number is just a ballpark of what to expect. This mimics the frankly sloppy way original PAFs were made. They can't be "modified" to use an A2 when they already do use A2. The Burstbucker Pro uses A5, but that also has quite closely-matched coils; the fact they're saying these have A2 magnets and have mismatched coils means that even if they started with the Pro model as their base, they've ended up back at the #1-3 design.
Gibson have stopped making the previously-standard Burstbucker 1-3 and instead now make the 61 set, which is closer to the Pro. (In fact they're near-identical, just the 61 has the screw coil stronger and the Pro has the slug coil stronger.) It could well be that they discontinued the 1-3 in order the relaunch that design as the Slash model.

I'll A/B them with some other BB models and some SDs once they arrive, but that's my expectation right now: same old product, new endorsement to push the price up.
 
I'm currently waiting on some 'Slash' BBs to come to me. They're second hand and I'll be trying them in a guitar with no tone controls, so I can't vouch for how they may sound with the special capacitors that Gibson are claiming the stock guitars come with, and I can't say I'm looking forward tot hem exactly, but I have a long history with the various BB models so I need to complete the collection.

Of course I'll reserve statements about their sound until I've actually played with them, but seeing this thread did remind me of a strange quote in an interview I read about the Slash guitars earlier this year:

This raises several questions and is why I'm not particularly looking forward to trying them. I have a feeling they're just a standard Burstbucker #2 and #3 set but exclusively made uncovered and potted. (And possibly within tighter tolerances.)
The Gibson Burstbucker #1, #2 and #3 already do use A2 magnets and are massively mismatched. They also tend to vary a lot unit-to-unit, so each number is just a ballpark of what to expect. This mimics the frankly sloppy way original PAFs were made. They can't be "modified" to use an A2 when they already do use A2. The Burstbucker Pro uses A5, but that also has quite closely-matched coils; the fact they're saying these have A2 magnets and have mismatched coils means that even if they started with the Pro model as their base, they've ended up back at the #1-3 design.
Gibson have stopped making the previously-standard Burstbucker 1-3 and instead now make the 61 set, which is closer to the Pro. (In fact they're near-identical, just the 61 has the screw coil stronger and the Pro has the slug coil stronger.) It could well be that they discontinued the 1-3 in order the relaunch that design as the Slash model.

I'll A/B them with some other BB models and some SDs once they arrive, but that's my expectation right now: same old product, new endorsement to push the price up.

There are roughcast A2 magnets and polished A2 magnets. They do make a humbucker sound different and that's one change that can be made.

In the Duncan pickup line up, stock humbucker pickups tend to use polished magnets and Custom Shop humbucker pickups tend to use roughcast.

I thought the pickups in that demo above comparing Gibson pickups vs. Duncan pickups sounded horrible.

But it was the player and the horrible angry tone he used was nothing like the tone Slash would normally go for.
 
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Personally, I like the APH Duncan/Slash units. A pal has a set in his Les Paul and it gets a great tone through his Marshalls.
 
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