New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

[Evan Skopp]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

I pulled up a video that shows a lot of similarities between the new Slash A2 Pros and the first run SD A2 Pros from '86.

I've never A-B'd them, but construction and component wise, the new Slash pickups appear to be a recreation of the A2 Pros from 1986.

Vintage style construction without the price?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp23MWoqHE4

That video compares things like the bottom plate, the cable, the wooden spacer, and other appointments that are more cosmetic than sonic. In terms of tone, a 1986 APH (with a fully charged magnet) is going to sound identical to a 2010 APH (with a fully charged magnet). The winding spec on that pickup never changed. New one. Old one. Same tone.

The Slash signature model is going to sound hotter than a new APH or an old APH.

 

[J Moose]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

The Slash signature model is going to sound hotter than a new APH or an old APH.

They seem to burn at a slightly higher temp but that's not all that's happening...

Seems like there's a "more" factor at work. More tone, more slice... the response from my hands as it translated to the amp was pretty immediate and very noticeable. The change in output, honestly was somewhat negligible.

The frequency response, spectrum and balance of lows, highs and mids is what struck me right away.

 

[uOpt]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

FWIW, I have a mid-1980ties APH1 that look precisely the same as the old one in the video.

The magnet in there looks a little different and measures a little weaker than newer A2.

It sound precisely the same, though. In fact I went through a whole bunch of iterations of putting in different magnets of the same type and never could find any difference.

 

[jmh151]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

What's the big deal if SD is charging about the same for a set of AP II's and a set of Slash pickups? You have your choice to choose either. If anything what I prefer with the Slash set is more chain stores are more likely to stock a matched zebra set now because it has Slash's name and it'll sell more. I was never able to walk into a store and get a matched set of AP II pickups before, it was always either online or special order

 

[dano8180]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

hey guys, thanks for all the comments. i feel better about leaning towards the sigs, just for the fact that it won't change the tone of the guitar as much as the PG's would. like i said, i'm pretty happy with the tone, i'm really liking what i'm hearing about changing the "feel" of the pickups. thanks again!

 

[ACH91332]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

I can understand EVH being object of such a cult, but I really can NOT understand why Slash. I just don't think he's such a great player.

Oh, well... to each its own, I guess.

I can see why people wouldnt like Slash. He can be sloppy live but he is a good writer. I wouldnt use any VR material as a reference to that and I havent heard his solo album but his GN'R albums were solid. Not gonna lie if it weren't for Jerry Cantrell and Slash especially I would be way less expressive and emotional with my playing. I can sweep, tap, etc and pretty well but I have YET to find a practical way to incorporate it into my own works. Just seems to show offy and unexpressive to me? IDK haha. It's cool to do when practicing my improvisation though.

 

[Stef]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

Well, no offence. Your "tech" is an idiot. I can't even imagine why anyone would come out with a statement like that.
Learn to do your own setups, and never speak to that guy again.

+1
ya really mad me laugh....the best post I've red in along time :friday:

 

[Stef]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

The pickups you already have are fantastic. You're not going to notice much, if any difference with the Slash models.
Slash used stock A2Pros on much of his recordings. But even then, if you read his book he doesn't in the least suggest he used Duncans exclusively, far from it.

If you like the tone you already have, leave it alone. If not, look for a different pickup altogether. IMO.

which pickups did he use on APFD - in that, now famous LP clone from LA?

 

[J Moose]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

which pickups did he use on APFD - in that, now famous LP clone from LA?

Plain old AII's...

 

[JohnnyGuitarCA]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

why not change the bridge with the slash model n leave the neck one stock

+1

 

[Evan Skopp]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

If anything what I prefer with the Slash set is more chain stores are more likely to stock a matched zebra set now because it has Slash's name and it'll sell more.

Keep in mind that the neck pickup is zebra, but the bridge pickup is reverse zebra -- just like the picukps in Slash's Derrig.

 

[jmh151]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

Keep in mind that the neck pickup is zebra, but the bridge pickup is reverse zebra -- just like the picukps in Slash's Derrig.

I know. I bought the set already and bought a pre wired RS Electronics wiring harness for it to switch from active to passive. That'll be here next week.

They should look nice in this guitar- a 1986 Les Paul Custom

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[LtKojak]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

Keep in mind that the neck pickup is zebra, but the bridge pickup is reverse zebra -- just like the picukps in Slash's Derrig.

Evan, may I ask WHY the Duncan code for Gibson Zebra is reversed Zebra?

 

[crguti]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

don't listen to anybody... use your money, buy the other pickups.

 

[Evan Skopp]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

Evan, may I ask WHY the Duncan code for Gibson Zebra is reversed Zebra?

I'm not sure, it's just the way Seymour sees it. And remember.... he "sees more."

 

[Diocletian]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

which pickups did he use on APFD - in that, now famous LP clone from LA?

I thought A2Pros, but after reading his biography I'm really not so sure.

 

[John_L]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

I'm not sure, it's just the way Seymour sees it. And remember.... he "sees more."

I think it's because Gibson didn't start doing it like that till after Seymour was established. Early zebras were all happy mistakes and I don't think they used zebras till the mid to late seventies.

 

[jeremy]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

I thought A2Pros, but after reading his biography I'm really not so sure.

it was mostly alnico II pros on afd and everything after too

 

[John_L]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

it was mostly alnico II pros on afd and everything after too

Not all of AFD was was recorded on the Les Paul copy some of it was done on his BC Rich and some other parts he used Izzy's ESP tele.

 

[jmh151]

Re: New Slash sig pickups. Been told they're "weak". Comments?

Not all of AFD was was recorded on the Les Paul copy some of it was done on his BC Rich and some other parts he used Izzy's ESP tele.

Slash said the Les Paul copy was given to him when he began the overdubs on AFD....