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I would appreciate any input on this. I am planning on putting together a set up with a Duncan distortion in the bridge and a P-Rail in the neck with a 5 way switch and 2 push/pull POTs. The configuration and diagram are attached. I’ve done wiring before but this is a bit more involved than anything I have attempted.
I would like someone with a bit of experience in this matter to please take a look at the diagram and let me know if it will work as I think it will I also want position 2 to be hum canceling, any input or suggestions are welcome. I am also thinking of 550K POTs with an audio taper for the volume and a linear taper for the tone. I haven’t thought too much about caps but I was thinking of trying a .33 µf.
Configuration:
1. Bridge HB (Series)
2. Bridge split + Neck Rail
3. Neck Rail (Pull Vol. add Bridge HB)
4. Neck HB (Tone-Series/Parallel) (Pull Vol. add Bridge HB)
5. Neck P90 (Pull Vol. add Bridge HB)
 
Re: new to forum, can I get someone to check a diagram?

forgot to mention I am planning on using a 5 way super switch, the pin layout matches the layout shown on the www.stewmac.com site.
 
Re: new to forum, can I get someone to check a diagram?

Welcome to the forum! Although I'm not anywhere close to a position in which I can help, I sure hope someone can. Good luck!
 
Re: new to forum, can I get someone to check a diagram?

phoneguy said:
Configuration:
1. Bridge HB (Series)
2. Bridge split + Neck Rail
3. Neck Rail (Pull Vol. add Bridge HB)
4. Neck HB (Tone-Series/Parallel) (Pull Vol. add Bridge HB)
5. Neck P90 (Pull Vol. add Bridge HB)
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Welcome to the forum!

What do you mean by Pull Vol. add Bridge HB? Do you mean when you pull the Vol pot you want Bridge HB and Neck Rail work together (series/or parallel)

Is using triple shots and option for you by the way. It would make the whole thing much easier for you. I have a 2TS, 2PP, 4 way switch wiring that would give you all these combinations and many more. I can share it if you like.
 
Re: new to forum, can I get someone to check a diagram?

Yes, sorry I meant that when you pull the Volume POT it should add the Bridge Humbucker (series) to switch positions 3, 4, & 5 which would add the Bridge to the 4 neck pickup configurations (rail only, HB both series and parallel and the P-90 only). Pulling the Tone POT to the up position should change the P-Rail from a Series HB to a Parallel HB.
I haven't really looked in to the triple shots yet, is there a video on you tube or somewhere I can see them in action? How easy it it to switch configurations while playing?
 
Re: new to forum, can I get someone to check a diagram?

I suggest you to give TS a try, you won't regret it. They are very easy to switch.
Installation video is here. I remember seeing it in a video with p-rails in action but I don't have access to youtube from work so I can try and find it tonight.

This is how I have wired my Jackson DK2M. PPs are used for reversing neck and bridge individually.
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Discussion thread is below if you like to look in to it.
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=187015
 
Re: new to forum, can I get someone to check a diagram?

Okay....after checking your diagram, there are a couple of issues:


1. If you want to get the rail coil on a P-Rail, you need to send the red & white wires to HOT, not ground (which is what you have done on the 5-way switch).
2. Having the red & white wires from a humbucker connected to a series/parallel push/pull, AND hardwired together on the 5-way switch (which is what you have) will result in severe wonkification. If this were the electrical wiring in your house, you would have shorted the entire grid, and all of your neighbors would be mad at you.

You will definitely be better off using a pair of Triple Shots and a regular 3-way switch in this case. You will most of your options with the Triple Shots, and if you want to, you can use one push/pull to add the bridge pickup whenever you want. And with a 3-way switch it will be visually much easier to keep track of. As Malcolm Young says: "I don't want my guitar to interfere with my drinking".
 
Re: new to forum, can I get someone to check a diagram?

OK please bear with me for a minute, I pieced the wiring diagram together from a few different sources.
1.The Bridge pickup is not a P-rail which is the red and white tied together going to ground, is that what you are referring to? I copped that from a few different sites to split the Bridge hum bucker. I am a bit confused as to exactly which wires go to each coil on the P-rail and also which coil on the Distortion Bridge HB would be hum canceling with the rail on the P-rail.
Example of red/white wires going to Ground on the superswitch: http://support.fender.com/diagrams/stratocaster/1106500_02B/SD1106500_02BPg2.pdf
2. The posts for the super switch, at least the way it was represented on the Stewmac site has no connection between the posts, only the post that is selected goes to the output. I tried to separate the components in a way that made sense to me. The Bridge hum bucker only has the black wire going to the Volume push pull, the P-rail goes to the Tone push pull in the drawing. I didn't connect the wiring from the Tone push pull switch to the drawing of the P-Rail as it was getting too cluttered for me so I just put the text boxes indicating the wires were coming from the P-Rail.
I haven't attempted much in the way of guitar wiring so more detailed explanations would be greatly appreciated.
 
Re: new to forum, can I get someone to check a diagram?

Thanks for the input, I was completely at a loss for which pair of wires went to the rail and the P90 so that cleared a lot of things up for me. I was already assuming that there was an easier way of doing what I wanted to do. I will go back and take a look at my drawing.
 
Re: new to forum, can I get someone to check a diagram?

I edited my drawing and hopefully corrected most of my mistakes. I still am not sure about the Bridge split and neck rail being hum canceling and I need to work out where the Tone is taken from but I think I'm getting closer.
 
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Re: new to forum, can I get someone to check a diagram?

OK, I can see that now, for some reason I was thinking that the 2 coils would be isolated which is why I am asking for advice from people with experience. Would it help if I grounded, from the P-Rail, the Black and White wires in positions 2 & 3 and the red wire in position 5?
I think I have the slug side on the distortion bridge pickup going to the output for the split on position 2 which I think lines up with your theory on hum canceling.
This whole exercise is as much a project for me to learn as anything else, so I won't be terribly upset if I have to rewire something.
 
Re: new to forum, can I get someone to check a diagram?

Actually after looking at it, it would do no good to put the black to ground in positions 2 & 3 because if I did pull up on the tone switch in those 2 positions is would also ground out the red and so the P-Rail is then completely shut off. I could possibly put the White wire to ground in positions 2 & 3 and hopefully stop the Antenna effect.
 
Re: new to forum, can I get someone to check a diagram?

Stone me! By the time that you have selected the right coils, interconnections and phase relationships, the rest of your band will have finished the set. :banghead:
 
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