NGD! but can't find any info about it???

[RockerRez]

Hey everyone, I picked this up at a local guitar shop today for $150 it's a great guitar for the money spent. I can't find any pictures or info online about what model it is. All I know is its a early schecter diamond series probably made in 1999 judging by the serial number starting with 99.

I'm planning on swapping out the duncan designed pickups as well as replace the "licensed under floyd rose patent" bridge with an OFR trem any suggestions?? I also have no idea what wood the body was made with. It is a very dark sounding guitar though so I'm assuming basswood or mahagony.

 

[muttznmongrelz]

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Sunset Model?

 

[Funkfingers]

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In your position, I would examine the inside of the control cavity for clues about the body wood. Look for signs of veneering and/or laminations.

 

[Aceman]

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Um - it's a Schecter Diamond series? Based on pup config I'd older rather than newer.

Who cares?!?!?!?!? AWESOME axe!

 

[Zerberus]

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As others have said, it´s an older Schecter Diamond series, these were MIJ or I think even MIK so good luck finding out anything much more specific than that.

As far as Floyds go, an OFR, Gotoh, or Schaller Lockmeister is a drop-in replacement, as is an Ibanez Edge or anything else with a 25" nut -post mounting distance, i.e. any direct copy of the aforementioned units, and also some more obscure trems like the Jackson JT-6 or the late 80s /early 90s ESP-Floyds.

The only one worth specifically noting is the Schaller Floyd Rose (NOT the Lockmeister, which is itself a direct 1:1 OFR copy with a Schaller logo instead of the Floyd logo). These have a slightly longer baseplate, and the knife edges are 1/16" farther forward (i.e. mounting distance 24 15/16"). That 1/16" may not seem like much, but it can be enough to prohibit the guitar from intonating properly. However, if you plan specifically on downtuning by at least 2 whole steps, this can actually used be to your advantage, because it will allow you for more travel in the direction it´s needed, namely towards the butt end of the instrument.

 

[allbutromeo]

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Had to download a 2000 catalog (they didn't have the 99 on their site). What you have is a V1 Plus, if the 99 has the 99 is the same as 00 it's mohagany/flame maple body maple neck w/rosewood finger board

 

[kramersteen]

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i had a schecter once. I finished it in la berserk graphics.

 

[HALENisking]

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i had a schecter once. I finished it in la berserk graphics.

Is that eyeshield themed (idk if that's the right name)

 

[Falloffthebonetone]

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Wait, do people really string floyds that way? With the ball ends at the tuners?

 

[kramersteen]

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Is that eyeshield themed (idk if that's the right name)

Nar Berserk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berserk_(manga)

 

[RockerRez]

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Thanks everyone for the responses you all have been super helpful. I'm thinking about dropping the classic JB and Jazz pickups in there. Also the OFR you get from floydrose.com is that the schaller German made one? Is it a direct drop in to the one I have.

 

[RockerRez]

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Wait, do people really string floyds that way? With the ball ends at the tuners?

I have always done that

 

[treyhaislip]

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Congrats on the new guitar! Looks killer!

 

[Zerberus]

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Wait, do people really string floyds that way? With the ball ends at the tuners?

Unfortunately, yes. They generally either don´t know that they´re damaging /causing unnecessary wear on the tuning posts with the stronger ballend winds, or think that they can wind up 2 miles of string around the post so as to have extra length when it breaks, or are just flat out too lazy to cut them off. Or they just don´t care.

None of those are really a valid excuse, but those are the excuses you generally get presented with. When I see a guitar strung up that way, it´s value to me goes down by a few hundred dollars, simply because I´m almost guaranteed to find major issues in some other place that will cost me a few hundred dollars either in parts or in labor. If someone couldn´t even be arsed to string the damn thing properly, how the hell am I supposed to realistically expect that other regular maintenance was in fact done properly?

To me, there is simply no excuse whatsoever for neglecting a musical instrument in that fashion, with one exception: every so often I run across an instrument strung in this fashion where the excuse is "that´s how I was shown to do it" (usually by a guitar "teacher", though how a teacher can be so blind to the way their own tools function is beyond me, but I digress.......), and that´s the only legitimate excuse. In that case, I`ll explain why it´s wrong or rather bad for the instrument, teach them how to do it properly, and expect them to heed those instructions in the future.

And if they come back 2 months later and the guitar is strung up that way again, that was their last free piece of advice.

 

[kramersteen]

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I saw a dude with the ball ends pushed down into where the saddle locking blocks go.

 

[DrNewcenstein]

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I saw a dude with the ball ends pushed down into where the saddle locking blocks go.

I saw that as well once. Nearly died from laughter.


As for ball ends at the tuners, the wraps should never touch the posts. I always run mine from tuners to saddles but leave enough room at the tuners for the balls to dangle until I feel like cutting them.
What I've found is that cutting the string usually leaves a slight burr on either side of the cut, where the string wraps were compressed the instant before being cut, which can cause the string to slip in the saddle lock, or in some cases, the winds unravel. Ergo, running them from the tuners to the saddles gives you a cleaner end to trap in the lock.

 

[KeeperOS]

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Like DrNewcenstein mentioned, on my Floyded guitars I too string them from the tuner to the bridge so that the "clean" end of the string gets in the lock but all of them also have locking tuners so snipping after locking is a given (the string gets damaged anyway from the locking so you can't reuse it even if you had that intent).

I honestly cannot understand how it is not obvious to anyone that a ball end WILL damage the tuner's post, let alone the fact that you're winding a thicker string than was intended (which might be OK for the plain strings but it should be pretty obvious for the wound ones...).

Aaaand, to get back on track, AWESOME looking axe man and a definite steal! Now all it needs is some TLC! Happy New Guitar Day "headbang"

 

[LazNovak]

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Nice guitar!

I string my Floyd guitars like that too.