NGD: cheap Japanese shredders still exist in 2018, after all!

[Adieu]

Jackson RR3, few usual scuffs, busted Floyd collar, bit of grime... $140 w/ ohsc

Hmmm... fix clean and flip or keep-to-mod, that is the question



Dayum that's some huge (and, curiously, pristine!) frets...what are those???



Nice FB and neat fretwork too



Quartersawn....and scarfed, both? But still....mmmm quartersawn. All in all a damn nice neck

 

[RolanTHUNDER]

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Good axe! MIJ quality and those look like hot Invaders! Those frets are jumbo frets. Good deal on that. Rather keep it unless you get double what you spent on it.

 

[Adieu]

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Good axe! MIJ quality and those look like hot Invaders! Those frets are jumbo frets. Good deal on that. Rather keep it unless you get double what you spent on it.

Those are Duncan Designed hb108's = unpotted licensed Distortions w/ Invader polepieces

Actually a surprisingly fun roar scream and squeal type pickup, albeit maybe a bit unrefined

Getting "double" should be beyond easy.... step 1, flip the case, and it ends up being a $50 - 70 Japanese guitar.

I'm of the "keep one bass case for irregularly shaped guitars, flip rest immediately" school of thought. Flipping cases alone has pretty much paid for most of the guitar gear I've ever owned.

And after a thorough cleaning, oiling, setup, and applying the invaluable 24-color sharpie set, it'll be worth a whole bunch more.

 

[RolanTHUNDER]

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You seem to have a good thing going flipping those cases. 24 color sharpie set?

 

[DonnellBW]

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I grew up near San Francisco in the days when I could see Quicksilver Messenger Service live for about 10 bucks and walk right up to the stage and carefully watch John Cippolina work his Bigsby Trem on his custom SG. Trems were a nessecity for me after that.
I still play for fun. I just went to the local GC here in St. Louis and tried a number of trem equipped guitars. After tuning each, every Gretsch I played de-tuned after a dip or two on the Bigsby. Even a high end 24 fret PRS went right out after a few term arm wobbles.
I have a used Blue and maple $200.00 (400.00 new) GC center brand "Laguna" LE400 at home with a graphite nut, locking tuners and nut, true coil split and a licensed Floyd Rose that has 5+ year old strings on it that stays in tune for weeks - made in "Indonesia"- go figure. Yes the FR can be fussy until you understand it, then its 10 minutes of muscle memory and mine will stay in tune for weeks (no exaggeration) with regular trem use.
My TEST for a trem guitar is this: tune it up, play with the term a bit, then play a barred B#m chord. If it is"sour", move on.
Despite hearing all the FR stories, the only reason I bought the Laguna was because the term arm has a screw collar that you can hand tighten to set the bar just where you want it, like a Bigsby. Nice cheap guitars coming from Revelation now from China under on-site inspection of British pick up designer Mr.Entwistle.
I also have an all maple RIC 12 at home that plays like butter, so I know quality. But it is hard to fault the Laguna for stay in tune tremming.

 

[RorySquier]

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Nice looking Jackson guitar...great score! I own myself a black Jackson King V guitar with a neck-thru body and EMG 81/85 pick ups which sound great.



;>)/

 

[PierceOkken]

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Picked up a jackson dx10d just a couple of years ago. Wow, what a shout! For 150 bangs it was a steal and a half. The stock duncan-designed pups were really not to bad. Replaced the bridge with a jb though. The neck pup is really good. Just a few months ago the wiring piddled out on me and had to rewire the whole thing. Probably because of age.

 

[PierceOkken]

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There is the beast in question. What a jem. Between this and my Charvel DK24 I am more than content!

 

[Demanic]

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There is the beast in question. What a jem. Between this and my Charvel DK24 I am more than content!

I picked up a '08 DXMG a few years ago for $150. It's gunmetal grey with the low profile licsenced Floyd. It came with EMG HZ's, which were eventually replaced by a zebra JB and a black no name neck pickup (8.5k, A5). Loved the Jackson neck profile, I later got a Jackson bass.

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[Artie]

Re: NGD: cheap Japanese shredders still exist in 2018, after all!

Nice score. I'd keep it.

 

[Chistopher]

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Jackson RR3, few usual scuffs, busted Floyd collar, bit of grime... $140 w/ ohsc

Hmmm... fix clean and flip or keep-to-mod, that is the question

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Dayum that's some huge (and, curiously, pristine!) frets...what are those???

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Nice FB and neat fretwork too

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Quartersawn....and scarfed, both? But still....mmmm quartersawn. All in all a damn nice neck

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You gonna change out the pickups? Seems like a more than decent find, even with the stock 108s.

 

[Adieu]

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You gonna change out the pickups? Seems like a more than decent find, even with the stock 108s.

Im not sure

I've really liked the hb108's I yanked out of another RR3 in a different guitar... but with Jackson RR3's and their cousin the Charvel Avenger, I always had modded stuff - EMGs, Duncans, Bill Lawrence, Dimarzio, mixed active-passive, a Fender CS 69 single coil.... just about anything. Hell, even a Dimarzio Air Norton piggyback boosted thru an EMG 81's preamp...

Maybe it's just modding for modding's sake? Especially since it's about the cheapest decently solid modding platform you can get these days

 

[beaubrummels]

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For $140 w/case I’d clean it up and rock the hell out of it. Since it has two rows of screws, I’d even play around with different screw sets before rewiring.

 

[Adieu]

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For $140 w/case I’d clean it up and rock the hell out of it. Since it has two rows of screws, I’d even play around with different screw sets before rewiring.

I don't think I've EVER seen anybody stagger or radius hex/screw poles in a guitar.

Like, literally...not once

 

[Chistopher]

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I don't think I've EVER seen anybody stagger or radius hex/screw poles in a guitar.

Like, literally...not once

Then you can be the first . I don't really think it makes too much of a difference with a beast such as the Invader as all finer minutiae is lost at that point. But who knows, you might be able to tell the difference on a 108.

 

[beaubrummels]

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I don't think I've EVER seen anybody stagger or radius hex/screw poles in a guitar.

Like, literally...not once

Who said anything about staggering or radius? I would swap out a row of hexes for filisters, and try different metal composition filisters.

 

[Adieu]

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Who said anything about staggering or radius? I would swap out a row of hexes for filisters, and try different metal composition filisters.

Ah I see


But then again, wasn't one of the typical bland and booooring Designed sets that's supposed to approximate the Distortion essentially the same thing just with screw and cylinder poles? Those things were extremely underwhelming, so it seems like the big invader screws do their job, and WELL???

 

[beaubrummels]

NGD: cheap Japanese shredders still exist in 2018, after all!

Ah I see


But then again, wasn't one of the typical bland and booooring Designed sets that's supposed to approximate the Distortion essentially the same thing just with screw and cylinder poles? Those things were extremely underwhelming, so it seems like the big invader screws do their job, and WELL???

Yeah so the screamin demon is a row of hex and a row of screws, the full shred is two rows of hex, and the Holdsworth is two rows of screws. Then there’s options I’ve never seen like putting invader hexes at one end and normal hexes at the other or playing with different length filisters against the hexes and so forth. Whether any of it is bland and boring is subjective opinion. I’m not saying it’s going to make it the grail, but if it only takes 5 minutes the swap out the screws and hear what it sounds like, I would try that before putting $190 worth of pickups and wiring in a $140 guitar.

It’s your guitar - nice score, enjoy it, mod it, whatever. I was just saying what I would do, keeping it in the cheap side.

 

[ColeJustesen]

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I am a huge fan of Jackson guitars, even more so Japanese made Jackson guitars. I have been on a kick the last couple of years buying top tier Jackson Stars Soloists (I have 4 now) and waiting on a Jackson Stars Kelly to be delivered. I am consistently impressed with the attention to detail from Japanese luthiers. I own an ESP, and several Yamaha guitars from Japan too, and they are just beyond excellent guitars. I own one USA Jackson, a Select B7 Deluxe, and the Jackson Stars I own are just as nice. While I can't say that I got any for $140, I feel like the prices I paid for them are cheap compared to the quality. I remember playing a Japanese Dinky several years back and was quite impressed... It was the white body, with maple fretboard model... I think the model was a DK3 and I really liked it. I am assuming your Rhoads is from the same time frame.

Congrats on the cool guitar! I have always loved the Rhoads shape, such an iconic look!

Cole

 

[Adieu]

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I am a huge fan of Jackson guitars, even more so Japanese made Jackson guitars. I have been on a kick the last couple of years buying top tier Jackson Stars Soloists (I have 4 now) and waiting on a Jackson Stars Kelly to be delivered. I am consistently impressed with the attention to detail from Japanese luthiers. I own an ESP, and several Yamaha guitars from Japan too, and they are just beyond excellent guitars. I own one USA Jackson, a Select B7 Deluxe, and the Jackson Stars I own are just as nice. While I can't say that I got any for $140, I feel like the prices I paid for them are cheap compared to the quality. I remember playing a Japanese Dinky several years back and was quite impressed... It was the white body, with maple fretboard model... I think the model was a DK3 and I really liked it. I am assuming your Rhoads is from the same time frame.

Congrats on the cool guitar! I have always loved the Rhoads shape, such an iconic look!

Cole

I think you meant a DK2M

Beware of Mexicans (same model name) and Indians (cheapie model lookalikes, iirc)