NGD - Epiphone Les Paul Special 2020

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Nice new headstock design, Epiphone. Now the A, B, and Es will be just as out of tune as the G and D!
 
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Rainsong...I’m having zero problems with getting in tune or staying in tune with this guitar.
 
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Nice new headstock design, Epiphone. Now the A, B, and Es will be just as out of tune as the G and D!

Why would you make such a ridiculous statement? The mustache design at the top of the headstock has nothing to do with staying in tune. A straight string angle (like Fender's 6 in-line) is certainly better than a 3x3 (like this or Gibson's), but your statement doesn't reference that.
 
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The new headstock is more than just a difference at the end. This new one is wider and the tuners are further apart. No change to the overall headstock angle though.

But again...no tuning issues for me at all.
 
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I decided to buy some normal size LP Special buttons for these locking tuners. They don't make ones that will fit the Revolution tuners in white so I went with nickel ones. I'm happy with it and think it looks much more proper overall. This guitar is such a keeper that I sprung for an Epi branded case, too.

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Mine arrived from my tech last saturday, the SD Vintage P90 tops the stock P90 PROs by far. The tuners are kind of meh, but I also can't find an upgrade with the white buttons...
 
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Mine arrived from my tech last saturday, the SD Vintage P90 tops the stock P90 PROs by far. The tuners are kind of meh, but I also can't find an upgrade with the white buttons...

The stock ones on mine after getting them the proper height sound so good to me. What's different about the SD ones? I see they're both Alnico 5 with braided wire. I'm all about making this guitar all it can be, so if the difference is really that stark, I may spring for the change myself.

I thought the stock tuners were great, it's just that locking tuners are a must have for me, which is why I went the Kluson Revolution route...glad I did. What do you think you're gonna end up doing about yours?
 
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Mine arrived from my tech last saturday, the SD Vintage P90 tops the stock P90 PROs by far. The tuners are kind of meh, but I also can't find an upgrade with the white buttons...

I'm not super familiar with European retailers, but these are excellent tuners that should look correct.

I have a locking set with keystone buttons on my SG w/ Bigsby and they've been rock solid.
 
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Looks great, man. I've been super impressed with most of the Laurel boards I've seen; I vastly prefer their look to the pau ferro stuff you tend to see in the step-up price range.
 
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Looks great, man. I've been super impressed with most of the Laurel boards I've seen; I vastly prefer their look to the pau ferro stuff you tend to see in the step-up price range.

I remember seeing laurel boards on Squier guitars in the last few years and thinking they had kind of a grayish appearance, so it took me many months of looking at photos and watching videos before I pulled the trigger on this. But gosh am I ever glad I did. There's NOTHING about this fretboard that looks or feels the slightest bit off. It so easily passes for rosewood. I don't like the look of pau ferro at all...super happy laurel was chosen.
 
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That's really sharp. Love me some P90's. I like the smaller buttons on the tuners myself. Looks much more proper for the guitar style. However, when I built my SG Jr, I put Gotoh metal keystone tuners on it and it looks fine. For my LP Jr DC build I just started, the plan is to go with the Kluson Supreme 3-on-a-plate with oval plastic or metal buttons. I might go metal. Depends on the weight difference. I'm also looking at the Golden Age Vintage-style 3-On-Plate Tuners. 15:1 gear ratio, lightweight, got the look for the guitar.

Nice upgrades. :bigthumb:
 
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I just picked up a Epi Les Paul Special II Limited - an older bolt-on model - and I was extremely surprised at how nice it is. Plays really well and the Epi pickups have a nice classic rock crunch. Didn't expect it at all!

Your new guitar looks even nicer. Enjoy!
 
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The stock ones on mine after getting them the proper height sound so good to me. What's different about the SD ones? I see they're both Alnico 5 with braided wire. I'm all about making this guitar all it can be, so if the difference is really that stark, I may spring for the change myself.

I thought the stock tuners were great, it's just that locking tuners are a must have for me, which is why I went the Kluson Revolution route...glad I did. What do you think you're gonna end up doing about yours?

To my ears the set of SD Vintage P90s are a definite improvement over the stock Epiphone P90 PROs: better definition and bloom, and lots of clarity, not that the stock ones were THAT bad. Touch sensitivity is also much noticeable on the SDs.

Minor gripe to me is the fretboard, an indian laurel one, which is definitely not as smooth as a rosewood one. I have a Squier VMJM with a pau ferro board, and while not as good looking as the Epi one, feels way smoother.

After Dystrust's tip, I may try to find some Gotoh locking ones, if the brand makes them.

Tone-wise, it's a monster. Using volume and tone pots on these SD P90s definitely gets a lot of different tones.

I just find the back of the neck too sticky, and it's the first guitar I've ever owned that feels that way.

Judging from the YT reviews I had seen before I bought it, it's really a lot of guitar for € 368! Since a Gibson would cost around € 1.200, I really couldn't justify the cost of the real one, so I guess this gets me 90% close.
 
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I'm not super familiar with European retailers, but these are excellent tuners that should look correct.

I have a locking set with keystone buttons on my SG w/ Bigsby and they've been rock solid.

Thanks for the tip, Dystrust. I'm a Schaller man myself, but a set of SD MG-Ts will probably be the way to go for me.
 
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Thanks for the tip, Dystrust. I'm a Schaller man myself, but a set of SD MG-Ts will probably be the way to go for me.

I love Schallers, but they're 30-50% more than Gotoh in the US for something of comparable quality.
 
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