NGD Fender Showmaster

[Brandenburg]

Re: NGD Fender Showmaster

Did they make hard shell cases for these? I just found out it does not fit in a strat/tele case. The neck is too long.

well thats good to know as ive been wanting to get a case too.i dont know if they did make a case but you would think they would of.. granted that mine is a stagemaster but the dimensions should be similar to a showmaster i would think . Mine fits in a generic case fine. Its not ideal but it does work

you might have to use a generic case or get one made.. or keep on searching till you find one that will work

 

[Brandenburg]

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Wow, I'm glad I posted I'm learning a lot. Guitar related history lessons are always awesome. I also have an HSS bolt on Squier stage master that I got at a pawn shop for $75. It has some dents here and there but it's a really nice playing guitar and the pickups sound good too. I'm probably gonna sell it to the other guitar player in my band to offset the cost of this new one though.

and this pertains to that guitar I think..LOL not alot of info on the net about the stagemaster, but atleast you can trace the date of mfg by the serial # and find out production runs,specs,etc.When i did some research on a 1994 squire bullet I own, there was literally none. Not even the serial number format matched anything on the net so i could not properly figure out the date of mfg.. Finally a dude on another forum had a book on squires and in it, there was ONLY ONE short paragraph on it.. and confirmed what I expected the serial number meant. korean factories believed in either making the serial # cryptic or had no clue/lazy about documentation in the late 80's up through the mid 90's.. really makes people work to find out any info

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Re: NGD Fender Showmaster

Did they make hard shell cases for these? I just found out it does not fit in a strat/tele case. The neck is too long.

Didn't realize these won't fit a standard case. Mine lives in a molded SKB case that it came in and I'd never put it in anything else, but it definitely is too long for the G&G/Fender case I just tried it in. The generic SKB Strat/Tele case fits mine, but just barely. So it's likely the exact same size as Brandendurg's.

I checked Ebay briefly looking for import Showmasters with factory cases and didn't see any. I did see one in the same nice tortoiseshell burst as mine, only with three Duncan singlecoils. It appealed to me but the seller wants $595 for it with just a gig bag. Pretty axe, still the price cured my GAS for this one- I got mine for $385 with the hardcase.

 

[jclampitt]

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Those skb cases aren't cheap but I guess hard shell cases never are. I'll probably just tough it out with a gig bag for now. This is definitely the longest guitar neck I've ever played. What gauge strings are you guys using on your showmasters/stagemasters? It's got some really thick strings on it now, I normally use 10s but with the long scale I think I might try 9s. Wow $595 that is a lot. Mine was $300 without a case.

 

[Brandenburg]

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Those skb cases aren't cheap but I guess hard shell cases never are. I'll probably just tough it out with a gig bag for now. This is definitely the longest guitar neck I've ever played. What gauge strings are you guys using on your showmasters/stagemasters? It's got some really thick strings on it now, I normally use 10s but with the long scale I think I might try 9s. Wow $595 that is a lot. Mine was $300 without a case.

300? you got a good deal.. as I said.. all together mine was 360 w/o a case but at the time I purchased mine some on ebay where going as high as 4 to 500. just looked ..most squire stagemaster deluxes are around the 350 mark except for this gem.. if i had 200.. yeah.. id snag it.. fill the neck pup hole, rout either a single or 2 singles,sand it then paint ..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fender-Squi...300495?hash=item1eaf041a0f:g:WZAAAOSwQgpXAc1P
i realize you have a fender and im talking about a squire.. just looked on fender showmasters.. most like yours go from 3 to 500
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...owmaster.TRS0&_nkw=fender+showmaster&_sacat=0

Originally I was going to replace both pickups with some iron gear 'pups but ran out of money.so I just decided to check out the fender triplebucker.. interesting lil pickup and only cost me $40 new

i always use 10's through 46's on all my guitars even though ive been debating on getting some 10's with some slightly heavier wound strings.. 25.5" is the only scale of neck I play so im used to it. This guitar plays very similarly to my DK-2. IMO the frets are of higher quality on this stagemaster.. She plays well and generally keep this one tuned to Eb with 10's she plays just as well w/ 10's in E standard though.. Only reason I set this one up for Eb is because i wanted one guitar for Eb that had a tremolo and she was the victim



also saw this.. daumn such abuse but would be kool to fix up if possible.. high end kramers from the 80's are nice
http://www.ebay.com/itm/80s-Kramer-...913906?hash=item41a9feabf2:g:Yq0AAOSwYmZXJ3~Q

 

[jclampitt]

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Well I measured and the distance between the nut and the bridge is the same on the Showmaster as my strat, I thought it was longer scale because the neck is about an inch and a half longer on the Showmaster, but it is still the same scale after all. There are a lot of interesting variations of these guitars in the eBay links you posted, the single pickup one looks pretty cool. And so does that Kramer assuming everything was fixable that would be a fun project to restore something like that. So what does a triple bucker do exactly? I've never really seen them before.

 

[Brandenburg]

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Well I measured and the distance between the nut and the bridge is the same on the Showmaster as my strat, I thought it was longer scale because the neck is about an inch and a half longer on the Showmaster, but it is still the same scale after all. There are a lot of interesting variations of these guitars in the eBay links you posted, the single pickup one looks pretty cool. And so does that Kramer assuming everything was fixable that would be a fun project to restore something like that. So what does a triple bucker do exactly? I've never really seen them before.

stagemasters are 25.5" scale amd has a radius of 12.5.. not sure about the radius on the showmaster but its probably the same. Only 2 things i really dont care for about this stagemaster is the small upside down headstock. Looks great on some guitars and this isnt one of them IMO and i dislike painted necks.. prefer a nice smooth satin finish like my jackson has but this guitar is off-limits to any permenant mods..so no drilling,sanding,etc .. lol Thats for my other guitars as I want atleast one guitar to remain kinda sorta stock


well the triple bucker only comes stock on onlyone fender that i know of.. i wanna say its the marauder... basically its a humbucker and single coil in a humbucker mount..As i said in a prebious post.. Kinda like a HSH guitar with 2 humbuckers..This 'pup has 6 leads instead of 4 but i just wired mine up very basic.eventually id like to get a cheap guitar with a pickguard and really experiment. I bet there are alot of possibilities available.. Id be like a mad scientist in a lab
http://shop.fender.com/en-US/accessories/pickups/fender-triple-bucker-bridge-pickup/0992220001.html

just an impulse buy and sound ok.. neither terrible nor great.i just wanted something different. originally i wanted to put a iron gear set in it but as i said, i ran out of money in my budget to spend on the guitar and pickups. i was thinking a DIRTY TORQUE & BLUES ENGINE or more probably.. ROLLING MILLS & BLUES ENGINE though.. i have a rolling mills in the neck of my superstrat and really like it alot
http://www.irongear.co.uk/irongear_pickups_036.htm

edit>> yea.. if my stagemaster would have a quilted maple finish on the body and headstock,satin finish on the neck, and a regular headstock.. yea it would be perfect for me.. as I said.. I like the finish of your guitar but it would have to have a headstock with a matched finish ..just looked your does have a matched headstock.. not sure why i thought it didnt

 

[jclampitt]

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stagemasters are 25.5" scale amd has a radius of 12.5.. not sure about the radius on the showmaster but its probably the same. Only 2 things i really dont care for about this stagemaster is the small upside down headstock. Looks great on some guitars and this isnt one of them IMO and i dislike painted necks.. prefer a nice smooth satin finish like my jackson has but this guitar is off-limits to any permenant mods..so no drilling,sanding,etc .. lol Thats for my other guitars as I want atleast one guitar to remain kinda sorta stock


well the triple bucker only comes stock on onlyone fender that i know of.. i wanna say its the marauder... basically its a humbucker and single coil in a humbucker mount..As i said in a prebious post.. Kinda like a HSH guitar with 2 humbuckers..This 'pup has 6 leads instead of 4 but i just wired mine up very basic.eventually id like to get a cheap guitar with a pickguard and really experiment. I bet there are alot of possibilities available.. Id be like a mad scientist in a lab
http://shop.fender.com/en-US/accessories/pickups/fender-triple-bucker-bridge-pickup/0992220001.html

just an impulse buy and sound ok.. neither terrible nor great.i just wanted something different. originally i wanted to put a iron gear set in it but as i said, i ran out of money in my budget to spend on the guitar and pickups. i was thinking a DIRTY TORQUE & BLUES ENGINE or more probably.. ROLLING MILLS & BLUES ENGINE though.. i have a rolling mills in the neck of my superstrat and really like it alot
http://www.irongear.co.uk/irongear_pickups_036.htm

edit>> yea.. if my stagemaster would have a quilted maple finish on the body and headstock,satin finish on the neck, and a regular headstock.. yea it would be perfect for me.. as I said.. I like the finish of your guitar but it would have to have a headstock with a matched finish ..just looked your does have a matched headstock.. not sure why i thought it didnt

That Triplebucker sounds interesting, the ability to switch between single coil or humbucker or both all in one pickup is badass and I'm surprised its not something you see more often. There's nothing wrong with the reverse headstock, unless it just the looks that bother you. In which case that's kinda what's cool about these guitars the fact that they are different from traditional Fenders. Having said that it is easy to instinctively reach for the wrong spot when tuning, but the same thing happens going from a strat to a les paul lol. I usually play les pauls and sometimes a hss strat and I have no problem going between the two, but today at band practice the long neck on the showmaster did throw me off a little but nothing I can't get used to.

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: NGD Fender Showmaster

That Triplebucker sounds interesting, the ability to switch between single coil or humbucker or both all in one pickup is badass and I'm surprised its not something you see more often. There's nothing wrong with the reverse headstock, unless it just the looks that bother you. In which case that's kinda what's cool about these guitars the fact that they are different from traditional Fenders. Having said that it is easy to instinctively reach for the wrong spot when tuning, but the same thing happens going from a strat to a les paul lol. I usually play les pauls and sometimes a hss strat and I have no problem going between the two, but today at band practice the long neck on the showmaster did throw me off a little but nothing I can't get used to.

on the triplebucker.. im not sure of all the configurations possible but it seems interesting to explore them.. like turning on or off any of the coils,parallel,series,phase,etc.... i think ill make an 'custom component' of the 'pup in a program i use to do my wiring diagrams and explore a couple of theoretical exercises . Ill first have to dig up a PDF that explained what each pair of wires control each coil

the triplebucker isnt really a new idea as hamer had a similar pickup. what sets this apart is it is a humbucker housing.. the hamer one was like 3 regular sized singlecoils . Im really surprised that other companies dont use 3 coils like this as well.

i have no problem with reverse headstocks but this one just looks odd. probably because its a tad smaller than a standard headstock.. I own a reverse pointy at the moment and I like it. So happen that this guitar has enough going for it that the headstock isnt all that important to me.. she sounds and plays great and it damn heavy and very solid feeling IMO. probably weighs 30% more than my dinky

well enjoy your new acquisition .. and if you wont to try out a triplebucker, they can be had for $40 new even though they list for double that.. Not much documentation on them though but i figured it out easy enough... a little reading and a DMM

 

[Brandenburg]

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here is an example of the hamer triple bucker i mentioned.. i definitely like the look of the fender one better
https://images.search.yahoo.com/sea...lbums/rr61/wildsdog/DSC_2897.jpg&action=click

forgot to mention.. I only play 25.5" scale and I have an old SG but is never played.. I just cant get along with the 24.75" scale nor can I easily jump from one scale to the other..Some do.. some dont.. Some say the middle pup of a strat get in the way of the pick. I used to feel that way, then somewhere in the evolution of my playing I started picking really close to the neck and addapted LOL..

 

[stevie_bees]

Re: NGD Fender Showmaster

I fell in love with a Custom Shop Showmaster Elite a few years ago. Unfortunately I didn't have the money to buy it. One that haunts me....


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