NGD - New horizons: a Horizon

nexion218

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The Jackson fanboy in me swallowed a bitter pill... :) As many of you might have previously heard from me I try to keep every guitar in my stable different: active, passive, neckthru, 7 string, 6 string and so forth, the only thing that has been a constant in the past 15+ years is the presence of the Floyd Rose. I got so used to it, I have become so at ease with it's feel, operation and maintenance that everything else felt weird and unconvenient. Which was kind of a bummer, as I always wanted a fixed bridge guitar, but it just wasn't happening. Enter Evertune. Ever since I saw it in I believe Ola Englund's video, I was sure that one day I'll get one - it just wasn't gonna happen with Jackson, as they (to my knowledge) do not have Evertune models.

As I was doing my usualy daily scroll-through a local gearflipping page, I came across an ad about this E-II Horizon with 7 strings, alder body, 3 piece maple neck, ebony board MoP inlays, brushd chrome coveres EMGs and Evertune seemingly in mint condition for around 2/3 of it's MSRP.Then came my usualy derpressive to and fro: "Too much money". "But its a good deal" "I don't really need this, I'm an average player at best, play for my cat only and don't make a living from music" "But what do you work for then? To buy gasoline and bread?" "But what if a train hits me next morning? Will I have enough money for a funeral?" "Money is just pieces paper, I can buy food and I have a job, so I'll have more of those pieces of paper" blablabla

And in a sudden moment of clairvoyance, I decided to look into it. It's a premium instrument, I can re-sell anytime and I must learn to not be intimately attached to every piece of lifeless object I own, not give names to them and if I don't need them, get rid of them. So I tried to educate myself bootcamp style from ESP stuff, even sent the pix from the ad to the ESP customer service to ask their opinion about the authenticity and decided to pull the trigger on the deal. I would like to add that ESP answered me within 2 hours, were super kind and expressed that they are "very confident" in the authenticity of the instrument based on the pix. Hats off to them!

The guitar itself waas in mint condition indeed. Not a single scratch ( and as you can see from the below pictures, it went through a very thorogh QC process ;) ). Setup was meh, the Evertune hex key and the straplock locks were missing. Nothing that would take away anything from the instrument. Even the case was mint. So I took it home. No panic about the money, no intimacy with the thing, no names given. So far so good.

Setting up Evertune is a breeze and let me tell you ,this is 'bout the next biggest engineering invention since sliced bread. :) For anyone making a living from music and laying down rythm tracks, this thing is a must. You can set it up that the guitar basically ignores any sort of wanted or unwanted changes in string tension... You can set it up to respond in the same way as a regular hardtail/fixed bridge... And everything in between... Individually for each string... Just WOW.

The frets will need a good polish, but the fretwork is the best I have seen thus far from a factory. Note the rounded fret ends! Overall great build quality, nothing that my amateur eyes could spot as wrong. And it's heavy like mud! Almost 5 kgs, though most of it is due to the Evertune I believe.

I looked up ESP factory recommendations for setup values, which were kinda weird: 2-1,5 mm action, 0,3-0,5 mm relief... So I decided to go after my own idea of 1,2-1,5 action and 0,2-0,25 mm relief. The guitar took it like a champ, plays perfectly.

I've expressed that I am not a fan of the EMGs, but the they work insanely well in this guitar. The sound has girth and yet it's insanely tight. The neck profile is a bit bulky, I much prefer my WR7 7 strings profile, but it plays effortlessly.

So overall this thing looks like a keeper, but I am very glad that I did not pay a full price for it and most probably never will. Sure, it has astonishing attention to detail, but strictly looking at the playability and overall performance, there is no way in hell it should be priced twicce or thrice as much as my Pro Series Jacksons for example. Actually, those have better sustain at some points of the neck, even with passive pickups. But this goes for the USA Jacksons, Gibsons and whatever over-the-top priced instruments. Or to put it in another way: either the second tier instruments a steal at their pricetag or these are unreasonably highly priced.

Anways, here are the pics:
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Nice looking ESP. So is this your or the cat's new toy?
 
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Awesome. I've been wanting to try a Horizon (to add to my ESP collection). I'm a little scared of the Evertune bridge though. Not sure I understand the point of it to be honest.

What EMGs are those?

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Great score! Evertune is very intriguing but one thing on my mind is how the palm would feel resting on it. I love the comfort of a Tune-o-Matic for palm mutes, string stability and general feel. How does your picking hand like it?

If that's a 707 in the bridge and 60-7 in the neck, you've got an awesome set. I didn't realize until I sold it how much I dug the 707 in my Schecter A7. Sounds like you describe, thick but clear.

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@ bigcupholder: It's just a regular 81/85 7 string set with some fancy covers to make people feel they're getting their money's worth. :D There is really nothing to be scared about. The weirdest is part is that you won't be using your tuning machines to tune the guitar, because tuning is done on the bridge itself. The point of it? It gives you a fixed bridge guitar which can be setup to work in a way that is immune to intonation and tuning issues stemming from playing style and other circumstances. I can see how it could save a boatload of money and studiotime when for example tracking rhythm tracks. But this does not deprive you from bending notes and such. In fact, you can adjust the sensitivity. For example you're a very hard picker and when you're in the zone playing live, your intonation is all over the place because you pick and grip the **** outta your guitar, but you still need bends. No problem, you can set it up to ignore minor unintentional string tension changes, but once you reaally want to bend and dig in, it works like a regular fixed bridge. Or you can completely block it and then it behaves exactly like a "normal" fixed bridge. As I understood it, all saddles are floating within a range. When you set them to be in the middle of their rrange, the only way to go out of tune is to chop the guitar in half. The closer you set saddle to the edge of its floating range, the more sensitive it will be to string tension changes and once you set it to the edge of that range, the Evertune is basically turned off. Had Hetfield tracked Dyer's Eve with an Evertune, we wouldn't have to be guessing if he's playing really fast alternating B and C, or if he's just picking so hard on the muted B that it's pulled sharp everytime.:D

@Metalman_666: Coming from Floyds, I feel perfectly at home. I feel like I had to do zero adjustments to my playing. You can't feel the high part of the Floyd's baseplate with the fine tuning screws but that's about it. Haven't measured, but it has about the same height as a recessed Floyd and basically no angled neck like with the TOMs. The reason why I don't have TOM guitars is because I just cannot get used to the bigger string-body distance. So for me it's really the other way around. :)
 
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Black. Very Black...

What does E II denote from ESP these days? Seen a few...
 
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Black. Very Black...

What does E II denote from ESP these days? Seen a few...

I believe it is what ESP Standard used to be. They restructured their branding and ESP is now reserved for Custom Shop and Artist Signature stuff and E-II became their top of the line factory product made in the Tokyo ESP factory. So in short their fancy stuff.
 
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I dig the Evertune, but I also liked the Autotune that Peavey was using in their guitars until recently, too.
 
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I dig the Evertune, but I also liked the Autotune that Peavey was using in their guitars until recently, too.

Never tried them, had to look up. I know you're all for innovation and revolution and to a certain extent I am too but that is just a bit too much for my tastes... :D
 
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You can play with action that low and no string buzz?

Not through the amp. Very little acoustically, but I take it as normal. Its an electric guitar, not acoustic afterall. There was a time when even the slightest acoustic buzz bugged me, but learned to ignore anything that doesn't come through the amp. And I suspect its with the factory 9s, becuase I noticed flaking where I pick and the product page lists the factory strings to be Elixir 9s. Actually I couldn't try whether the treble side would go lower, because any lower would hit the pickups. :D Also, Evertune might have to do something with it too. I saw a product video with the video of some modern metal-core type band (Fit for a King or sg like that) and the guy said he plays tuned DOWN to F or F# and uses 10s without a problem, while with his other giutar he had to go up to 13. Though I doubt he does it with the standard tension Evertune string modules. They have higher tension ones for a reason. :) But yeah, surpeised me a bit too, to be able to have the low B <2 mm. Still don't get why the guy sold it for 2/3 price, I doubt a single chord was strummed on it.

Edit: Oh and this is before I set it up, it went a bit lower after adjusting neck relief and matching the saddles to radius... It's now on 1,5 at the low B 12th fret and barely above 1 mm on the high E. I'll change to 10s and keep playing and we'll see how it takes. It might turn out that I'll have to raise a bit du to finding some uneven spots while playing, but I'd be surprised.
 
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Nice guitar, I'm guessing it sounds heavy! I haven't tried the Evertune, but Devin Townsend swears by it, and tries to get everyone in his band to use one.

And yes, E-II seems to be the new ESP Standard. The original LTD Elites were made in the same factory, I guess people didn't like the Japanese LTD thing, so pretty sure they because the new E-II/Standard.
 
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To be honest, I never really understood what they were doing with LTD. It made sense until it was really the "dumbed down" non-Japanese made version of the main brand. But once they started cranking up the quality and pricetag, it just started to make less and less sense. I think it would be beneficial for them to settle down branding-wise. I keep reading that people are suspicious that there is something shady is going on and that is the reason for rebranding. I even read someone suggesting that this E-II line is an outlet to sell B-stock ESPs at a higher pricetag... Talk about the power of a logo!
 
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