NGD: PRS Silver Sky SE - Mixed Feelings

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Hi all!

So on Wednesday I bought a Silver Sky SE. I wanted to share my experience so far as I think it might be insightful to strat players who are interested in the SS.

I'll start with some background. I am a Fender strat player through and through and have been for years now. 75% of the time that I pick up a guitar, I'm playing either SRV, Mayer or Hendrix. I love Strats. They make you play a certain way. They're rough, raspy, throaty. They're clean but angry at the same time. Glassy but screaming. The thing I like most about Strats is the playabaility and, again, the way they make you play (think little wing, lenny, bold as love, wind cries mary, gravity). I thoroughly believe that this style of playing was created by large part by the Fender Strat itself.

My main guitar is a heavily modded Mexican Classic Player 60s. I've had it for years and over the years I've optimised it to exactly my needs. My only issue was that when the guitar was with a tech, I didn't have a strong back-up to play in rehearsals or jams. So I decided to get on the hunt.

The Silver Sky began to pop up. Decent price, similar to a strat. People said they play the same but even sound better. I also read that the original core SS was based on a '64 strat, which caught my attention. So I found an evergreen one, secondhand for 500 euros. Not a bad deal! Took it home and here we are.

Now to my thoughts on this guitar.

The Silver Sky SE does not play like a strat and does not sound like a Strat. I suppose the core line is very different because if PRS tried to base this SE version on a Fender Strat, I personally think they failed miserably.

That's not to say it's in any way a bad guitar.. but it isnt a strat. And I'm surprised that people online say that it sounds/plays like one.

THE NOT-SO.GOOD

The Silver Sky makes you play cleaner - like a PRS. It doesnt inspire me to play SRV at all. It inspires me to play more defined single-not lines. Think Sob Rock. One very interesting thing is that, to me, the difference between my strat and the Silver Sky highly resembles the difference between Continuum-era Mayer and Sob Rock-era Mayer. I can completely understand MAyer's change in playing style, because it's exactly how I feel when I pck up the SS.

Everyone raves on about the PRS build quality. I understnad this is an SE Indonesian line.. but it doens't feel high-quality. I don't doubt that it is, but it doesn't FEEL like it. It feels a bit chinese. all 3 knobs on it are cracked. playing it acousticlly, the guitar creates this kind of vibrating reverb under the sound of the strings which I really dislike (bridge is decked with 5 springs).

Now for the sound. I really dislike the pickups. They are super high output compared to what I'm used to. I'm not sure why PRS thought it would be a good idea to put such high output pickups in a guitar that's meant to resemble a '64 strat. It's difficult to play dynamically because everything comes out high-volume, high-attack. The sound is mid-rangey and full. I also think that the pickups lack character. There is nothing about them that makes you think 'that's the Silver sky sound. They are bland, and quite tasteless. Not stratty enough to be a strat, not anything else enough to be anything else. They just are ..

Surprisingly to me, the differences in sound between my Strat and the SS when pluggged in are the same when played acoustically, meaning that it's not just the pickups, but the guitar as a whole. Acoustically, the PR sounds warmer, lacks sparkle and glassiness. It's more woody, honky. That's not a bad thing ofc - it's juist not a strat.

THE GREAT

I think this guitar is absolutely perfect for a gibson player that wants to delve into strats. In fact, I get the feeling that it was designed exactly for that. A Fender may be too stratty for a Les Paul player. The SS still holds some Gibson-style characteristics. For me personally, I definitely play it like as if it were a Gibson.

The 2 and 4 positions are magical. Better than any strat I've played. I think PRS really knocked it out of the park with this. The in-between positions are super quacky but don't lose volume. I love these positions but in a band setting I struggle to keep up in the mix. With the PRS, this isn't a problem. Switching from neck position to neck+middle has no drop in volume, only change in tone.

The pickups sound super clear. Although the sound isn't particularly for me, its no denying that they make a great job in amplifying exactly what the guitar is playing. When you play a G-chord, no frequencies are too strong or too weak. Every string can be heard equally.

The pots are very satisfying. They roll super smoothly with an even amount of friction. It sounds ridiculous to mention it but they are that good that you notice it. The volume or tone roll-off is even and there are no big drops at any point between 0 and 10. I found myself playing with the volume and tone at the 1-3 range and still getting great tone - something that is impossible on my strat.

I actually like the tuners. I like that they are big and you can get a good strong hold onto them. This is very subjective though.

The guitar is routed to fit Fender pickups (unlinke the core, i think), which is great. I think they woud be making a huge mistake if they didn't allow pickup replacement with standard size single-coils. The fact that they designed it like this makes me thiunk that some part of the team knew that people would want to change the pickups and, therefore, they knew that the stock ones aren't great.

SUMMARY

It's only been 3 days but I've had 2 rehearsals already with it. I will keep it for a couple of months and see if it grows on me a bit more. The logical thing would be to change the pickups but in thatc ase, I would just rather sell it and buy a strat. I want to like it because it would be a great second option for songs that require a bit more girth. Maybe if i play it more, the playability will easen up and it will begin to feel strattier in my hands. The PRS SS SE doesn't sound or play anything like a strat, and if you want a strat, BUY A FENDER. This guitar is best suited for humbucker players who went to experiment in strat territory.
 
The pickups aren't perse high output (7.35K alnico 5, not really that hot, truly, just a touch overwound to allow for a slightly smoother top end), but they are loud. The EQ curve shows that, The bump is exactly where your ear is most efficient. The pickups are akin to the Irish Tour set by BKP:

https://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/pickup/strat/irish-tour-single-coil

As for 'doesn't play like a strat'. What is that supposed to mean. The neck is an exact copy of his '63 (of 64 or 65, i can't remember) strat, just the headstock is different. Also, same radius board, same frets. So 'doesn't play like a strat' means next to nothing to me.

As for the cracked knobs: can happen in shipping.

The pickups are exact strat pickups. If you want to test the hypothesis, pull the pickups out of the PRS and stick 'm in your guitar to see how it works. A guitar is a simple thing: wood and metal. The metal and wood parts are per strat spec. Perhaps you simply didn't expect this kind of sound from these pickups, but to say that they aren't strat... quite a reach.
 
The pickups aren't perse high output (7.35K alnico 5, not really that hot, truly, just a touch overwound to allow for a slightly smoother top end), but they are loud. The EQ curve shows that, The bump is exactly where your ear is most efficient. The pickups are akin to the Irish Tour set by BKP:

https://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/pickup/strat/irish-tour-single-coil

As for 'doesn't play like a strat'. What is that supposed to mean. The neck is an exact copy of his '63 (of 64 or 65, i can't remember) strat, just the headstock is different. Also, same radius board, same frets. So 'doesn't play like a strat' means next to nothing to me.

As for the cracked knobs: can happen in shipping.

The pickups are exact strat pickups. If you want to test the hypothesis, pull the pickups out of the PRS and stick 'm in your guitar to see how it works. A guitar is a simple thing: wood and metal. The metal and wood parts are per strat spec. Perhaps you simply didn't expect this kind of sound from these pickups, but to say that they aren't strat... quite a reach.

I understand that the facts on paper show that it is the same as a strat. I'm just sharing my personal experience with the instrument. The core Silver Sky was based ona 64 strat. The SE wasnt so maybe thats why there is a difference.

Don't get me wrong, I'm by no means saying 'this guitar is not a stratocaser objectively', it's purely my own opinion. And of course, everyone's opinion of the strat sound is also different. I'm comparing it to my own strat.

I would also add that I probably made the mistake in expecting it to sound exactly like what a strat should sound mike in MY head. Therefore there was a bit of self-generated hype. For sure.

Regardless of the pickusp, when i play it acoustically it sounds too mid-rangey and woody to me to be comparable to a strat.
 
Very thorough review.

I personally agree with you in that I don't find PRS SE's as OMG TOP QUALITY as many YouTube reviews will have you believe. Not to say they're not good, but they're so hyped by online reviewers that sometimes they set unrealistic expectation. JMO, of course.

I've tried those Silver Skies at Long and McQuade, and while they're nice, I wouldn't pick one up over a nice standard Mexican Strat at that price range.

What I don't agree with is that it's a Strat for Gibson players. I think Fender make better Strats for that with 12" fretboards and HSS configs. I'm a Gibson and Gibson-style-guitar player, and I find the Silver Sky super alien because of that fretboard radius, mainly. I see your point that it doesn't sound or play like your Strats. But in the grand scheme of things, it's certainly not very Gibson-y. Nor is it all that "regular" PRS-y, I find.
 
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playing it acousticlly, the guitar creates this kind of vibrating reverb under the sound of the strings which I really dislike (bridge is decked with 5 springs).

Check the joint between the neck and body. I recently got a cheap MII Jackson that has a bad joint, which may contribute to this.

Also, what is the guitar weight? What wood is the body? Let me guess, Nyatoh? That stuff is all over the place in density and sound. The Nyatoh jackson is almost too resonant.
 
Check the joint between the neck and body. I recently got a cheap MII Jackson that has a bad joint, which may contribute to this.

Also, what is the guitar weight? What wood is the body? Let me guess, Nyatoh? That stuff is all over the place in density and sound. The Nyatoh jackson is almost too resonant.
It's Poplar on those.
 
Good review.

From reading through it I get the impression you would be happier getting rid of the prs and picking up another second-hand Classic Player 60s strat and modding it to be similar to your no 1.

...or search for something similar with some of the subsequent mods you made to the one you already have.
 
Good review.

From reading through it I get the impression you would be happier getting rid of the prs and picking up another second-hand Classic Player 60s strat and modding it to be similar to your no 1.

...or search for something similar with some of the subsequent mods you made to the one you already have.

I also think I would organically be happier with a similar guitar to my no. 1. However I also don’t want to be a player who is dependent on 1 very specific type of strat and finds all else uncomfortable. So I will try to warm up to the SS. Of course if in a few months it still feels forced, then yeah I’ll swap or sell.
 
Very thorough review.

I personally agree with you in that I don't find PRS SE's as OMG TOP QUALITY as many YouTube reviews will have you believe. Not to say they're not good, but they're so hyped by online reviewers that sometimes they set unrealistic expectation. JMO, of course.

I've tried those Silver Skies at Long and McQuade, and while they're nice, I wouldn't pick one up over a nice standard Mexican Strat at that price range.

What I don't agree with is that it's a Strat for Gibson players. I think Fender make better Strats for that with 12" fretboards and HSS configs. I'm a Gibson and Gibson-style-guitar player, and I find the Silver Sky super alien because of that fretboard radius, mainly. I see your point that it doesn't sound or play like your Strats. But in the grand scheme of things, it's certainly not very Gibson-y. Nor is it all that "regular" PRS-y, I find.

Reading up on some forums I actually saw a lot of people having the same problems with the knobs. It’s the first time I hear people having knobs break so easily.

good point about the fretboard radius to be honest. It might indeed feel too round for Gib players.
 
I also think I would organically be happier with a similar guitar to my no. 1. However I also don’t want to be a player who is dependent on 1 very specific type of strat and finds all else uncomfortable. So I will try to warm up to the SS. Of course if in a few months it still feels forced, then yeah I’ll swap or sell.
I'd start with swapping those pickups out, personally. If the guitar itself is kinda midd-y and loud, find something scooped and low output... and higher quality. Not to say those GB stock pickups are bad, but they're certainly no Seymour Duncans or DiMarzios, IME.

The weakest links with PRS SE guitars I've always found to be the pickups and the tuners. A good set of your choice of pickups goes a long way with them, I find.

I suppose for the knobs, they use an asian version of the knobs they use on the USA models. It's too bad they're cracked, because they're kinda cool-looking.
 
Body is poplar!

Nothing against poplar in general, but I've had some cheap MIC and MII through here recently and they vary greatly in density. I had a featherweight MIC jackson superstrat with floyd that was poplar and sub-6 lbs. The floyd itself is around a pound, a 7lb floyd guitar is already on the light end. The sub six pounder was all mids and had no bottom end.

I also have a nyatoh floyd guitar in my possesion that with floyd is 6lb 12oz, which is also super light. Not as extreme as that poplar guitar, but also resonant and middy and seems to lack bass plugged. Good fo lead guitar but not as much authority for chords.

At this price point, I don't care so much about the kind of wood, just the weight/density. I think the density is a bigger determinant of how it sounds.

If the PRS SS SE has a weird resonance, I would check the neck joint and weigh the guitar. My feeling is that if a strat style is sub-7lbs then all bets are off regarding its sound.

More resonant equals more filtering, means could be some missing frequencies when plugged in. IMO. Or it could be the coolest guitar you've ever heard. IMO.
 
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Nothing against poplar in general, but I've had some cheap MIC and MII through here recently and they vary greatly in density. I had a featherweight MIC jackson superstrat with floyd that was poplar and sub-6 lbs. The floyd itself is around a pound, a 7lb floyd guitar is already on the light end. The sub six pounder was all mids and had no bottom end.

I also have a nyatoh floyd guitar in my possesion that with floyd is 6lb 12oz, which is also super light. Not as extreme as that poplar guitar, but also resonant and middy and seems to lack bass plugged. Good fo lead guitar but not as much authority for chords.

At this price point, I don't care so much about the kind of wood, just the weight/density. I think the density is a bigger determinant of how it sounds.

If the PRS SS SE has a weird resonance, I would check the neck joint and weigh the guitar. My feeling is that if a strat style is sub-7lbs then all bets are off regarding its sound.

More resonant equals more filtering, means could be some missing frequencies when plugged in. IMO. Or it could be the coolest guitar you've ever heard. IMO.

Yeah I’m not bothered about the wood usually, even at higher price points. But this reverberation sound does get to me to be honest. Maybe some people dig it as it has a natural reverb of some sort, but I’m used to a guitar being dead silent apart from the sound of the strings. Neck joint seems ok but I’ll take it to my tech and see if he can work it out.
 
Coming back to share a quick update. So I've been playing the guitar every day for about 10 days now.

I will be honest that my opinion on it has changed drastically. My fingers have quickly adapted to the fingerboard radius and neck shapew, making it comfortable and very fun to play.

Having experimented more with the pickups, I have found the sounds it does very well, and sounds that are better to avoid. For example, the handle overdrive incredibly well. With drive, they hold together more than my strat, they offer a smoother and richer, tighter tone. The strat is a bit more unstable and can lack the mid/mid-low frequencies.

So for now i decided to keep it as a warmer strat-option. For some track sit does suit better, for opthers (mostly where crystal clean high-end is required), I'll stick to the strat. For funk, Ill play the strat as its more snappy. For RnB, I'll take the silver sky as its smoother. For blues, they both suit for different reasons.
 
I hope to get a chance to try one some day. I don't usually go to guitar stores a whole lot, but next time I do, I will make sure they are a PRS dealer.
 
ive only played the usa model but it felt like a nice strat with some modern appointments, the pups were a bit different but not bad. not sure how the se model compares
 
I hope to get a chance to try one some day. I don't usually go to guitar stores a whole lot, but next time I do, I will make sure they are a PRS dealer.
They're cool. I suppose they priced them to compete with Mexican Strats. I kinda dig Mexican Strats better, but I do prefer flatter boards and thinner necks, personally. But that's probably also one of the differentiating factors that would make people choose one over a MIM Strat.

I've read they based the pickups on the USA Silver Sky, but the specs really don't match. The SE's pickups are wound to a higher DCR. They're G and B pickups.
 
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I owned an SE Custom 22 before, and it was...meh. I'd like to try the USA Silver Sky. It isn't the kind of guitar I could ever see me spending that kind of money on, but I'd like to try it.
 
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