NGD - Yamaha SG1000

[fretburner]

Sweet! First band I was in the other guitar player had one of those. Loved it.

Gonna take a lot of TLC to bring her back to life, but I'd say well worth the effort.

As for the Pancake - whatever. BC Rich glues wood on and it is boo-teek. Someone does a pancake and it is crap. Pffft. No worries.

Look forward to seeing update. Where is this body crack you speak of?

It's on the join on the 3pc back... The control cavity stops it from going all the way through

I think fret levelling (or a refret), pickup swap, new pickup rings, and some thorough cleaning will make this gig-ready.

I'll just have some push-push switch on the ready, when I get tired of the scratchiness of the tone knob. I usually keep it turned all the way up, so scratchy tone knobs normally won't bother me.

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[fretburner]

When drummers see a crack in their cymbals, they drill a hole at the end of the crack to stop it from getting worse. I imagine this is a similar situation.

I hope my luthier does a good job on this... He usually does.

Clamping it will probably not "close" it (will probably make it worse), and I don't want to put a mahogany wood fill in it...

But I hope it stops and go on any further.

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[fretburner]

Many years ago I had a SG 2000 on trial which was a pretty cool guitar stock. . But felt I I could not justify the price tag even though it was pre owned. Interestingly I recollect reading somewhere that like you Carlos Santana actually preferred his Yamaha SG to his PRS in his early days .

That is the top of line SG. But I prefer the set neck over the neck through (SG1500 and SG2000)

Although, I never had a neck through guitar, so it probably would be nice to own one some day. Almost bought a Yamaha Ty Tabor about a decade ago.

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[Ashurbanipal]

Meh, I've seen people pour more $$ into fixing worse looking stuff. Apart from the body crack, this just needs a good clean.

Played a 2k once, it was early 80s, tobacco burst. Superb guitar, but my back thought otherwise after a bit . Nevertheless, the Yam SG (and Ibanez AR) is a way to go if you want a LP style guitar with some refinements.

 

[fretburner]

Meh, I've seen people pour more $$ into fixing worse looking stuff. Apart from the body crack, this just needs a good clean.

Played a 2k once, it was early 80s, tobacco burst. Superb guitar, but my back thought otherwise after a bit . Nevertheless, the Yam SG (and Ibanez AR) is a way to go if you want a LP style guitar with some refinements.

I once held a Washburn Falcon. I definitely preferred that to an Ibby Artist, and...

I prefer the Yamaha SG to the Falcon \m/

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[misterwhizzy]

I think it should be pretty easy to decide if it was a good trade. Forget about the money, clean it up, and play. All you have to do then is decide which one you like better. I think if you were willing to give up the PRS, then it probably wasn't the best guitar for you. And congratulations on the new guitar!

 

[NegativeEase]

One of my favorite guitars of all time

 

[fretburner]

Finally got the bridge and tailpiece from a jeweler "re-plated" and Korean Wilkinson gold tuners... The plating wasn't done very well, but it looks ok from afar.

Stock Yamaha pups are out and Duncans are in... But I might swap out the parallel axis distortion coz the color and shine doesn't match the APH1b at the neck and black pickguard...

I'd also swap out the Les Paul pickup rings... While the Yamaha is arched, it isn't arched as much and I think flat bottom pickup rings are a better fit.

But at least I can send this to my luthier to do something about the wood crack at the back, have it refretted, set up and intonated.

Btw... I can't recall the PATB distortion to sound this crunchy.

It was on 2 super strats before this, and I didn't think it sounded that way. Cleans are quite thin though.

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[fretburner]

The pickup rings I ordered arrived sooner than expected...

Duncan Custom Custom is in, PATB Distortion out

Bobbins now match (approx) the pickguard

Never dropped a Custom Custon in a Les Paul or SG, and this Yamaha is kinda in between, i.e., SG shape but thickness of a Les Paul... I wouldn't say it's lacking highs, but the mids are very in your face...

And it's true it's got even less lows than a JB

But as Dave Mustaine once said: it's why you have a bass player.

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[GuitarDoc]

It would have gone all the way if not for the cavity

These are pictures I had the previous owner take and showed to my luthier before I offered my PRS

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It looks like it actually did.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Isn't it easier to just say congratulations on your new guitar or not say anything at all?

Absolutely!

But if everyone did that this would be the most boring forum and soon would have no members. Forums exist because of members' opinions and advice. I've given my honest opinion. If you only want to hear passive go-with-the-flow comments, maybe you should try religion.

 

[GuitarDoc]

It's on the join on the 3pc back... The control cavity stops it from going all the way through

I think fret levelling (or a refret), pickup swap, new pickup rings, and some thorough cleaning will make this gig-ready.

I'll just have some push-push switch on the ready, when I get tired of the scratchiness of the tone knob. I usually keep it turned all the way up, so scratchy tone knobs normally won't bother me.

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If this were a crack in the finish, or in a metal cymbal, then yes, a hole or cavity would probably stop it from getting bigger.

But, this is a glue joint fail between two separate pieces of wood! The entire joint is week. A cavity is not going to stop that. If anything, it will reduce the strength of that joint and allow it to get worse. Continued expansion and contraction of the two pieces of wood along that week joint will cause further separation along the entire glue joint.

 

[GuitarDoc]

I’ve seen skilled guitarists do amazing things with “junk.”

I am not, nor would I ever dispute that.

 

[GuitarDoc]

When drummers see a crack in their cymbals, they drill a hole at the end of the crack to stop it from getting worse. I imagine this is a similar situation.

Nope.

 

[GuitarDoc]

I hope my luthier does a good job on this... He usually does.

Clamping it will probably not "close" it (will probably make it worse), and I don't want to put a mahogany wood fill in it...

But I hope it stops and go on any further.

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I think you're right, clamping will not close it. Cutting it open and gluing in a wood filler strip would take care of the problem, but that would be a lot of work and very expensive and would also require refinishing.

I would think that flowing and filling the gap with thin CA glue would be the simplest/easiest/quickest/cheapest/best fix.

 

[Securb]

Absolutely!

But if everyone did that this would be the most boring forum and soon would have no members. Forums exist because of members' opinions and advice. I've given my honest opinion. If you only want to hear passive go-with-the-flow comments, maybe you should try religion.

Giving an opinion and being insulting are two different things. Saying the guitar is not to your taste or stating it needs a lot of work is one thing. Calling someone's axe a piece of junk is passive-aggressive keyboard warrior crap and benefits no one or the forum. This kind of behavior starts flame wars which tend to turn off more new members than boring topics or conversations.

 

[GuitarDoc]

"Insulting"!

Maybe you should read my entire post again.

"I" wouldn't buy that guitar. I don't know anything about the value/market price of that guitar new or used and I have no emotional connection to it (some have said that they have loved that model and would love to have it) so it means no more to me than how much work it would take to get it into good working condition. Just an objective analysis. If the OP got a good deal in the trade, and it works out good for him in the long run, kudos to him. I wasn't making any remarks about HIM or HIS choice...just that it wouldn't be MY choice considering its condition.

And...by belittling my opinion, aren't you doing to me what you are (falsely) accusing me of doing to him?!

Look, I know that you don't like me and you'll jump at the chance to tear down just about anything I say. I get that. If you think that your behavior contributes more to the forum's main objectives than mine, so be it.

By the way, aren't you an admin? If so, I would expect more from you.

In any case...I'm out.

 

[Mincer]

Back to the topic at hand...

 

[GuitarDoc]

I'm just curious if the luthier has done anything yet to fix this guitar and what he ended up deciding to do.

 

[fretburner]

Just brought the guitar to my luthier a while ago... He's going to clamp it but will not force the issue. He's going to use a glue (I think it's a super glue of some sort) with very low viscosity so it will penetrate deep into the crack.

He assured me, the crack will stop propagating when he's done with it.

I was relieved the truss rod still turns. But he will "zero" it so it can move both directions even if I use heavier gauge strings.

I'm glad I won't have to spend too much

Hopefully I'll get it back by the end of the month and really hear if I like the Custom Custom in the bridge.

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