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One of Jerry's Kids
Re: No doubt redundant but - if you could choose on pedal for blues gigs what would i
I think this is truly the best answer.
I think this is truly the best answer.
No doubt redundant but - if you could choose on pedal for blues gigs what would it be
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leevc5
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Re: No doubt redundant but - if you could choose on pedal for blues gigs what would i
"<rant> Such refusal to depart from the style and tools of our forbears is a major reason why guitar's relevance in contemporary music is on life support. Such a "time capsule" approach to an instrument is why guitar is only slightly more relevant today than Benny Goodman's clarinet. </rant>"
The guitar is still alive and thriving in today's country music.
Keith Urban; Brad Paisley; Junior Brown; Vince Gill;Redd Volkaert...
"<rant> Such refusal to depart from the style and tools of our forbears is a major reason why guitar's relevance in contemporary music is on life support. Such a "time capsule" approach to an instrument is why guitar is only slightly more relevant today than Benny Goodman's clarinet. </rant>"
The guitar is still alive and thriving in today's country music.
Keith Urban; Brad Paisley; Junior Brown; Vince Gill;Redd Volkaert...
ThisDyingSoul76
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Re: No doubt redundant but - if you could choose on pedal for blues gigs what would i
I haven't quite narrowed this down to one pedal yet. But out of what I have on my board; I would say the Boosta Grande, Boss Turbo Overdrive, Open Road and Double Trouble (twin TS808 variant) would be the pedals I would probably pick from. Most likely I would take 2 of them because I like to have one pedal supply my crunch tone then stack another with it for my lead tone.
if I was to use the Open Road with low gain for crunch, I'd probably use either the Boss Turbo Overdrive or the Double Trouble for my lead sound with low to moderate gain and a slight level boost to drive the signal it bit harder. If I didn't want the mid range focus of those pedals, I'd just use the Boosta Grande after the Open Road to drive the amp harder (which could also work for my crunch with the Open Road giving a bit more dirt for lead). ....Or, if I was looking for more of an SRV type sound, the Double Trouble on its own with one side set as a boost and the other with more dirt from the pedal would be just fine.
It really depended on what sound I was after for that night. Even, if the amp is set for crunch and cleans up by rolling off the volume a bit, the Boosta Grande could do the job on its own if I was going after a sound that got all the overdrive from the amp. It's all about how dirty I want the sound to get and how drastically I want the pedals to colour the tone... Which reminds me, while I have lots of overdrive options, the one thing I need is a good transparent overdrive that won't break the bank. Everything I have now does colour the sound in some way. None in a bad way, but I'd like something that just gives me more of what I already have from the amp.
I haven't quite narrowed this down to one pedal yet. But out of what I have on my board; I would say the Boosta Grande, Boss Turbo Overdrive, Open Road and Double Trouble (twin TS808 variant) would be the pedals I would probably pick from. Most likely I would take 2 of them because I like to have one pedal supply my crunch tone then stack another with it for my lead tone.
if I was to use the Open Road with low gain for crunch, I'd probably use either the Boss Turbo Overdrive or the Double Trouble for my lead sound with low to moderate gain and a slight level boost to drive the signal it bit harder. If I didn't want the mid range focus of those pedals, I'd just use the Boosta Grande after the Open Road to drive the amp harder (which could also work for my crunch with the Open Road giving a bit more dirt for lead). ....Or, if I was looking for more of an SRV type sound, the Double Trouble on its own with one side set as a boost and the other with more dirt from the pedal would be just fine.
It really depended on what sound I was after for that night. Even, if the amp is set for crunch and cleans up by rolling off the volume a bit, the Boosta Grande could do the job on its own if I was going after a sound that got all the overdrive from the amp. It's all about how dirty I want the sound to get and how drastically I want the pedals to colour the tone... Which reminds me, while I have lots of overdrive options, the one thing I need is a good transparent overdrive that won't break the bank. Everything I have now does colour the sound in some way. None in a bad way, but I'd like something that just gives me more of what I already have from the amp.
ThisDyingSoul76
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Re: No doubt redundant but - if you could choose on pedal for blues gigs what would i
I find myself doing this at times. My pedalboard is continually expanding, and while at home or when jamming I will use them all frequently, but it's not uncommon when recording or even at gigs that I find myself using only a few of those pedals if I use them at all. On a demo one of my old bands once recorded I had a couple of parts that used a wah. In practices I always used the wah on these parts, but live I found myself rarely going to it.
I find myself doing this at times. My pedalboard is continually expanding, and while at home or when jamming I will use them all frequently, but it's not uncommon when recording or even at gigs that I find myself using only a few of those pedals if I use them at all. On a demo one of my old bands once recorded I had a couple of parts that used a wah. In practices I always used the wah on these parts, but live I found myself rarely going to it.
leevc5
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Re: No doubt redundant but - if you could choose on pedal for blues gigs what would i
Gonna build a Timmy. Evidently Paul Cochrane has no problem with releasing the layout and parts list. I ordered the parts for ~$20 and then found out that you could by one directly from Paul Cochrane for $100. Evidently he is a very cool dude and has helped others work with modifications on his design, another reason I wish I had ordered from him.
Gonna build a Timmy. Evidently Paul Cochrane has no problem with releasing the layout and parts list. I ordered the parts for ~$20 and then found out that you could by one directly from Paul Cochrane for $100. Evidently he is a very cool dude and has helped others work with modifications on his design, another reason I wish I had ordered from him.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: No doubt redundant but - if you could choose on pedal for blues gigs what would i
+1. Pedals used in moderation, can add a lot of variety, and interest to a guitarist's playing. Why should technology for blues end in the 1950's? Bluesmen were pioneers; some of the first to use electric guitars when they came out in the post-war era. Most of them jumped on the new technology, instead of sticking with acoustic guitars. The availability and variety of pedals kicked into gear in the 1970's and '80's, and many of the original blues players had passed away by then.
Look at how many metal players have incorporated classical music into their playing; it doesn't count if it's not on a violin? Technology changes, instruments change...use it to your advantage. You have a bigger palette to work with. In any genre, the musicians that we remember and are inspired by, are the ones who thought outside of the box.
+1. Pedals used in moderation, can add a lot of variety, and interest to a guitarist's playing. Why should technology for blues end in the 1950's? Bluesmen were pioneers; some of the first to use electric guitars when they came out in the post-war era. Most of them jumped on the new technology, instead of sticking with acoustic guitars. The availability and variety of pedals kicked into gear in the 1970's and '80's, and many of the original blues players had passed away by then.
Look at how many metal players have incorporated classical music into their playing; it doesn't count if it's not on a violin? Technology changes, instruments change...use it to your advantage. You have a bigger palette to work with. In any genre, the musicians that we remember and are inspired by, are the ones who thought outside of the box.
leevc5
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Re: No doubt redundant but - if you could choose on pedal for blues gigs what would i
Alas, some of us are just journeymen and will never have the vision of a Hendrix or a Ravel. Greatness and fulfillment live in the journeyman as well. Mastering technique and finding creative ways of overcoming obstacles is the stock and trade of a journeyman. Being able to get on stage or go into a studio armed with just your gitfiddle and amp and making beautiful music without adding electronic gizmos requires a special talent that should be appreciated and admired. (Stilted post for a lazy Sunday afternoon)
Alas, some of us are just journeymen and will never have the vision of a Hendrix or a Ravel. Greatness and fulfillment live in the journeyman as well. Mastering technique and finding creative ways of overcoming obstacles is the stock and trade of a journeyman. Being able to get on stage or go into a studio armed with just your gitfiddle and amp and making beautiful music without adding electronic gizmos requires a special talent that should be appreciated and admired. (Stilted post for a lazy Sunday afternoon)
Re: No doubt redundant but - if you could choose on pedal for blues gigs what would i
paul is awesome, ive spoken to him a few times over the years. i have two timmys and many of my friends have grabbed a tim or timmy after hearing mine. he charges a very fair price and the pedals are great all around
paul is awesome, ive spoken to him a few times over the years. i have two timmys and many of my friends have grabbed a tim or timmy after hearing mine. he charges a very fair price and the pedals are great all around
vegetablejoe
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Re: No doubt redundant but - if you could choose on pedal for blues gigs what would i
I've always brought only one od pedal to the local blues jams. At times, a TS variant, a Mooer Blues Crab, or a Jetter GSR. But I was happiest with my YouDirtyRAT paired with a LPS P90 guitar. Lots of tweakability in that Rat. Low to higher gain; smooth and warm to raspy; and a bit of compression and sustain without having to get obnoxiously loud.
I've always brought only one od pedal to the local blues jams. At times, a TS variant, a Mooer Blues Crab, or a Jetter GSR. But I was happiest with my YouDirtyRAT paired with a LPS P90 guitar. Lots of tweakability in that Rat. Low to higher gain; smooth and warm to raspy; and a bit of compression and sustain without having to get obnoxiously loud.
leevc5
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Re: No doubt redundant but - if you could choose on pedal for blues gigs what would i
Well, I knew it was going to happen and today it did. I spent more time fiddling with my pedals and amp settings then I did actually playing. Tomorrow I will buy a timer and budget 7% of allotted guitar time to playing with the seemingly infinite settings. Even my limited pedal inventory I can see how addictive mucking about thinking that ultimate sound is just one adjustment away.
Well, I knew it was going to happen and today it did. I spent more time fiddling with my pedals and amp settings then I did actually playing. Tomorrow I will buy a timer and budget 7% of allotted guitar time to playing with the seemingly infinite settings. Even my limited pedal inventory I can see how addictive mucking about thinking that ultimate sound is just one adjustment away.
Empty Pockets
BadHairDayologist
Re: No doubt redundant but - if you could choose on pedal for blues gigs what would i
Buy a timer? 7%? That's counterintuitive.
When you find the sound you've been looking for, it inspires you to play so much that you stop tweaking things.
Buy a timer? 7%? That's counterintuitive.
When you find the sound you've been looking for, it inspires you to play so much that you stop tweaking things.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: No doubt redundant but - if you could choose on pedal for blues gigs what would i
I've always used amps that get a great blues or blues rock tone on their own, and then just use whatever new flavor of the week OD is my newest. I set them pretty subtle, so it only has to slam the pre tubes.
Most recently, I've been digging the Way Huge Red Llama and Ibanez TS808HW.
Strat, 335, or Godin P90 into Fender Pro Reverb, Matchless Cheiftain, or Fender Vaporizer.
I've always used amps that get a great blues or blues rock tone on their own, and then just use whatever new flavor of the week OD is my newest. I set them pretty subtle, so it only has to slam the pre tubes.
Most recently, I've been digging the Way Huge Red Llama and Ibanez TS808HW.
Strat, 335, or Godin P90 into Fender Pro Reverb, Matchless Cheiftain, or Fender Vaporizer.
ThisDyingSoul76
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Re: No doubt redundant but - if you could choose on pedal for blues gigs what would i
True. Pedals aren't a requirement. But, not every sound is attainable with just a guitar and amp. It all depends on the sound you're after. For example, while nobody will ever completely replicate SRV's tone, a tubescreamer into a loud tube amp (a Fender or Dumble if possible) is pretty much essential.
True. Pedals aren't a requirement. But, not every sound is attainable with just a guitar and amp. It all depends on the sound you're after. For example, while nobody will ever completely replicate SRV's tone, a tubescreamer into a loud tube amp (a Fender or Dumble if possible) is pretty much essential.
leevc5
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Re: No doubt redundant but - if you could choose on pedal for blues gigs what would i
I miss the point being counterintuitive. If I have allotted 7% tone shaping time to a 2 hour practice session it means I would allow about 9 minutes to play with tone adjustments. I agree this may be too short of time perhaps 15 minutes or ~14% would be more practical as I am just beginning this experimentation with pedals.
I miss the point being counterintuitive. If I have allotted 7% tone shaping time to a 2 hour practice session it means I would allow about 9 minutes to play with tone adjustments. I agree this may be too short of time perhaps 15 minutes or ~14% would be more practical as I am just beginning this experimentation with pedals.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: No doubt redundant but - if you could choose on pedal for blues gigs what would i
True, a guitar thru an amp can be nice, but with the judicious use of a few carefully chosen pedals it can even nicer.
As far as SRV, there are blues players that are not SRV fans, nor do they want to sound like him. The 'Strat and a Hat' thing has been beaten into the ground by thousands of players, and is pretty worn out by now. Gary Moore said he'd walk out when a band started the SRV thing.
True, a guitar thru an amp can be nice, but with the judicious use of a few carefully chosen pedals it can even nicer.
As far as SRV, there are blues players that are not SRV fans, nor do they want to sound like him. The 'Strat and a Hat' thing has been beaten into the ground by thousands of players, and is pretty worn out by now. Gary Moore said he'd walk out when a band started the SRV thing.
leevc5
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Re: No doubt redundant but - if you could choose on pedal for blues gigs what would i
I think SRV's signature was his .013-.056 strings not the tube screamer thing. One of my favorite electric blues recordings is SRV and Albert King in session. That is what SRV was about.
I think SRV's signature was his .013-.056 strings not the tube screamer thing. One of my favorite electric blues recordings is SRV and Albert King in session. That is what SRV was about.
