*No flaming please!* Gibson QC regarding NON-LP models

[Rainmaker]

I'm interested since I'm gonna be hunting for Flying Vs. I'm excited because Flying Vs are my favourite style of guitar.

On face value, what should I expect from playing a bunch of Flying Vs? Are they less prone to setup errors? etc.

 

[cream123]

Re: *No flaming please!* Gibson QC regarding NON-LP models

i don't know. however, i can tell that they are piles of crap to sit down with. even w/ the reccomended style. the one's i've played were all epi's but they sucked

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: *No flaming please!* Gibson QC regarding NON-LP models

Gibson QC is Gibson QC no matter if it's a LP. SG, V, 335, 175...whatever...pick a model you like the features of and play as many as you can find...buy the best one and spend a little extra cash making it a killer player...you will more than like be looking at things like mild fret work, maybe a new nut and a killer set up. You'll more than likely spend around $200 or so on these things but it'll be worth it when you're done.

Good luck!

 

[TimmyPage]

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Alot of the V's I played were well ahead of other Gibsons in Quality control.

And people say you cant sit with them, but that's bullcrap - It just takes a bit of adjustment and then you're good to go.

 

[cream123]

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And people say you cant sit with them, but that's bullcrap - It just takes a bit of adjustment and then you're good to go.

i never really sit down so it wouldn't be a problem i'm just stating my opinion

 

[JOLLY]

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I have an es-135, an explorer, a flying V, and 2 SG Juniors. They are all Gibsons, and I have no QC issues or any other issues with any of them.

 

[That90'sGuy]

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Gibson is an equal opportunity screw up. No matter what guitar model it is, there will always be poorly made ones out there just like there will always be rare gems in every line.

My experiences, always play before you buy. My last Gibson, the cherry '76 Explorer, was better than my 3 previous Gibsons (2 of which were high dollar custom shop historics). I played tons of other Gibsons in stores and it varies so much, you really have no choice, but to play in person to know what you're going to get. If I had bought online with my Explorer, would I have gotten a good one? My instincts are telling me it'd be in worse condition than the other 3 I had owned.

 

[cream123]

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i will only allow you to get a flying V if you get this one

 

[Fresh_Start]

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Not flaming - I was all set to buy an ES-335 until I toured the Gibson factory in Memphis. The only people on the factory floor who played guitar were in the setup area. The workers doing the binding, finishing, etc. might as well have been on an automobile production line. The tour guide kept showing us the quality control - how guitars with problems were pulled out of the line at different points, "fixed", then put back into production.

I bought a Heritage 535 and never looked back! (Still had to re-do the nut though.)

Chip

 

[Voxman]

Re: *No flaming please!* Gibson QC regarding NON-LP models

Not flaming - I was all set to buy an ES-335 until I toured the Gibson factory in Memphis. The only people on the factory floor who played guitar were in the setup area. The workers doing the binding, finishing, etc. might as well have been on an automobile production line. The tour guide kept showing us the quality control - how guitars with problems were pulled out of the line at different points, "fixed", then put back into production.

I bought a Heritage 535 and never looked back! (Still had to re-do the nut though.)

Chip

WTF,i think you need a new brain. not flaming

 

[Kommerzbassist]

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how guitars with problems were pulled out of the line at different points, "fixed", then put back into production.

What's so bad about that? If the problem can be fixed why throw away the guitar?

 

[Fresh_Start]

Re: *No flaming please!* Gibson QC regarding NON-LP models

What's so bad about that? If the problem can be fixed why throw away the guitar?

The key question is whether or not the problem can really be "fixed" or not, and how well it can be "fixed".

WTF,i think you need a new brain. not flaming

See above, then re-read the original post about the workers' attitude. Then think about how well they would "fix" QC issues. Then ask yourself "was I flaming?".

Chip

 

[bryvincent]

Re: *No flaming please!* Gibson QC regarding NON-LP models

Not flaming - I was all set to buy an ES-335 until I toured the Gibson factory in Memphis. The only people on the factory floor who played guitar were in the setup area. The workers doing the binding, finishing, etc. might as well have been on an automobile production line. The tour guide kept showing us the quality control - how guitars with problems were pulled out of the line at different points, "fixed", then put back into production.

I bought a Heritage 535 and never looked back! (Still had to re-do the nut though.)

Chip

Leo Fender never learned how to play guitar. you think all those workers on the Gibson factory in the fifties know how to play guitar?

 

[D-EJ915]

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My friend had a SG Special which sucked, turns out it had a broken truss rod, wtf gibson. Anyway he got a replacement SG Standard and that guitar kicks ass!

 

[Kommerzbassist]

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Leo Fender never learned how to play guitar. you think all those workers on the Gibson factory in the fifties know how to play guitar?

Btw who cares if the guy doing the binding or the finish can play guitar? I mean what's the difference whether you tell a non-playing guy to put on a thin finish because it'll sound better or if you tell a player to do so? Even moreso with the binding, which doesn't affect tone at all. Not everyone making parts for a racecar has to be a racecar driver.

 

[El Dunco]

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V's are easy to sit with in the classical position, it is the casual position you can't sit with them.

 

[Lu_B]

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finishing, etc. might as well have been on an automobile production line.
Chip

I'd rather have a guy who was good at his particular trade building my guitar rather than any hot shot guitar player. This goes for any trade, do you think a F1 driver can service a Ford Mondeo?