Not impressed with Moogerfoogers

millsart

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Well I'm not usually one to start a thread just to complain about something, I usually prefer to focus on the gear that really does impress me but I thought this one would be a bit intresting to many.

Given the stellar repuation of the Moog pedals, and Bob Moog in general, the Moogerfooger line seems highly regarded, though not many have them.

Size and cost no doubt are a big part of this. At MF's recent 20% off sale I ordered the MURF and the Ring Mod for a nice savings. They finally shipped this past week and I've had a few days to mess around with them. (I've got the EV pedals for them as well)

Buildwise they are top notch, bit metal cases, solid pots and knobs, solid wood sides (I'm not a fan honestly but its still nice)

Soundwise ? They left me sort of flat after the fun of taking them out of the box and making some noises. I'm no stranger to spending heavily for a quality effect but I just felt these didn't really deliver much bang for the buck.

Ring Mod - I think this one came to $220 which isn't cheap but reasonable compared to their $600 delay lol. It can either get a bit of a stuttery tremolo sound or the typical ring mod clangs. One cool thing is the rate can get very high resulting in some rather high pitched sounds. Fun for 5 minutes but then not that musically useful for my taste.

MURF - This one has a number of preset patterns and some moveable filters but again, its a bit limited in the musically "useful" sounds it can do. Its got plenty of weird sounds but only a handful were that cool and overall worth the money. $330 or so for some crazy noise and pulsations is a bit much. Yes it can do some of those cool RHCP end of the night live jam stuff and thats cool at first but after just a few days, its like "I spent $330 for this" ?

One additional gripe I have is that they don't have a good bypass at all. Horrible in fact as the signal bleeds in and you've got to keep the input gains set high at all times to pass the signal even when the effect is not engaged.
Granted you can get a nice overdrive turning them up but they should have a better bypass.

Hearing the effect blend in is something we expect on a cheap $30 pedal, not a $300 one if you ask me. Doesn't even need to be true bypass (though you'd expect it) but at least have a quality buffer and bypass.

Overall they are huge tanks of pedals, that have a bad bypass system, require center negative power supplies and cost a lot of money for a few bleeps, blips and clangs.


I checked the clips on MF before ordering and wasn't exactly inspired but I figured maybe they had some better sounds in there. Can't trust demo's to really showcase what a pedal can do, you know ?

In this case though what they show is pretty much what you can expect. If you like those sounds, more power to you. For some styles I could see it as useful.

The Ring Mod with heavy distortion produces some cool industrail clangs and metal on metal noises for example.

I've never had a desire for my strat to sound like two pipes banging together though lol


Bottom line is that these pedals are quality products, save for a few issues such as bypass, but I can't see them as appealing to many guitarist usnless your into some stranger sounds, which I know some people are.

I used to be real into analog synths back in the 80's and had a full studio of stuff. I've made all the sweeps and farts and blips and squeals to tide me over for a lifetime lol.



Anyways, hope whats admittedly just one mans opinion might of helped give you some insight into one of those pedals I'm sure alot of people always looked at and wondered about but never got much experience with.
 
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That is a **** shame man. Can ou at least return that junk?

Personally if I'm giving Musician's Friend anything around $300 it's for a blow-out telecaster or something. I don't think ANY pedal would be worth that much...just to add some weird sounds to your rig while you should be rockin out...haha
 
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Well I'm not usually one to start a thread just to complain about something, I usually prefer to focus on the gear that really does impress me but I thought this one would be a bit intresting to many....

Anyways, hope whats admittedly just one mans opinion might of helped give you some insight into one of those pedals I'm sure alot of people always looked at and wondered about but never got much experience with.

You are not alone in this. I felt exactly the same way... I was able to try them out before purchase (so I didn't purchase...). I felt kind of let down by them, for the same reasons you listed (rep., build quality, etc.). I really wanted to like em, but it was not to be...
 
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Maybe it's just me....
I for the life of me could never figure out what a guitarist would use either one of those pedals for- yes, they alter the pitch, but are they useful for anything except making odd synth type noises?
Like Keef says: " Is it a tool, or a toy?"
 
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I think they are more usefull for noise bands, of trippy stuff like Radiohead or pink Floyd like bands.
And they are too expensive for waht they do imo.

Acquired taste you might say !


James
 
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the technology and design that goes into them is interesting. but yeah
 
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It's funny how some of the more expensive pedals are the least useful. A cheap overdrive will be used every day, but a high-tech synth-type of effect will get hooked up once every few months.
 
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i heard thier LPF filter are sweet. good for auto-wah sounds but does not suck up the tone
 
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LOL I'll never forget the look on my girlfriend's face when we went on the musiciansfriend site and decided to listen to those because they were some of the most expensive pedals on there... Weird stuff.
 
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i heard thier LPF filter are sweet. good for auto-wah sounds but does not suck up the tone


Except that it cost nearly twice was a Maxon or Qtron does and doesn't give you high or bandpass filters.

I had a buddy who had the LPF, it wasn't bad and sounded okay with his bass, but I'm personally not a big fan of LPF for guitar.

I'll take bandpass for wah sounds or high pass for funk any day
 
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PS :


. . . their analog delay is WORLD CLASS though !


James


Better be for $689 dollars for an analog delay that doesn't even have modulation or tap tempo lol

makes the Diamond Memory Lane a real steal at a mere $400
 
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I think they are cool pedals, but you've got to have a pretty experimental mindset to get a decent amount of use from them. I'd love to own them.
 
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PS :


. . . their analog delay is WORLD CLASS though !


James

I tried this one, too, and can't say I liked it. It seemed like everything I played into it echoed back sounding like "blap, blap". I am not an analog delay aficionado, however...maybe it is supposed to sound like "blap, blap"? Or, perhaps I had some settings wrong?
 
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The MuRf is a really interesting box... opens up all kinds of new tones & soundscapes... Yeah. It makes bleeps & bloops & transmografrys everything that goes though it, but that's the point. And it's a DEEP box too... really gotta spend some time with it to figure out what it can do in a musical context.

There's a whole lotta MUrF on the new Swampadelica record... Dai has one in the FX loop of his Hammond B3... so B3, vocals... Wurlitzer piano, some other bits... though the mURf and some other boxes, digitech whammy, Boomerang sampler, etc. and out a Leslie cab.

Interesting stuff. He's had the MurF for a few years now and he's still figuring it out...

www.swampadelica.com

You won't figure that pedal out in 20 minutes... maybe 20 days you'll have scratched the surface...

But I guess it all depends on 'yer musical contexts & endeavors.
 
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Better be for $689 dollars for an analog delay that doesn't even have modulation or tap tempo lol

makes the Diamond Memory Lane a real steal at a mere $400


But if you want true vintgae analog tone (south of the $1000.00 mark) the memory lane will never do.
Way to digital and harsh sounding !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ9uzcz5_DA

http://guitargeek.com/chat/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95365&highlight=moog+delay - 10th post

http://guitargeek.com/chat/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87924&highlight=moog+delay - also, 10th post

http://guitargeek.com/chat/showthre...&perpage=15&highlight=moog delay&pagenumber=2 - 6th post

YOU'LL GET THE IDEA !!!



I will buy the Carl Martin DeLayla XL over the MLane any day !

YMMV


James
 
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I think they are cool pedals, but you've got to have a pretty experimental mindset to get a decent amount of use from them. I'd love to own them.


VERY TRUE !

Like i said, best suited for trippy bands like Pink Floyd / Radiohead or even Industro-noise bands like Nine Inch Nails !


James
 
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I tried this one, too, and can't say I liked it. It seemed like everything I played into it echoed back sounding like "blap, blap". I am not an analog delay aficionado, however...maybe it is supposed to sound like "blap, blap"? Or, perhaps I had some settings wrong?


Maybe . . . :D

Watch the youtube clip i posted above - pure analog goodness.


James
 
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Maybe . . . :D

Watch the youtube clip i posted above - pure analog goodness.


James



Fair enough, I guess it depends how much you like analog delay. I'd personally go for a Space Echo or Echoplex for that kind of money myself, though I do still enjoy my DMM
 
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Fair enough, I guess it depends how much you like analog delay. I'd personally go for a Space Echo or Echoplex for that kind of money myself, though I do still enjoy my DMM


Ahhhh, DMM are killer delays !


James
 
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