Not using valuable gear...

What is with that?!

I swear it drives me nuts to see guys that have valuable stuff be it older/vintage guitars, high dollar new guitar or limited edition pieces that they don't use because "it'll be worth more if I don't use it"...

Come on guys...don't be such babys about it!

You bought it, you paid good money for it, get some damn use out of it!!!!
 
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I can't say I haven't been guilty of doing it, which is why I only play and modify high-quality affordable guitars now.

Then again, I have never had issues bringing American Standard Strats and Les Paul Standards on stage and absolutely thrashing on them.
It's the other ones though, the Masterbilt Fenders and Historic Gibsons that I totally understand being case queens. There's just too much processing and ways to get an amazing tone nowadays that there's no reason to bring such a top-dollar instrument into the elements.

Then agan, if I had a pretty lady in the front row, I wouldn't hesitate to schlep that geet. Nothing screams homerun when there's that fat Gibson decal on your headstock.
 
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Hmmm ... I would say 'it depends'.

Case in point: my favourite phaser is my Maestro PS-1. But I would never gig with it. It's too big, needs 120V to power it, and in the type of gigs I play, you would not hear an appreciable difference between it and my Script 90.

However, I do use it at home and for recordings. I would never NOT use it because it has value; that would be silly to me.
 
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The only time I was guilty of this was after I had lost everything, and had only one Marshall head left. I didn't want anything to happen to it in case I needed to sell it to pay bills or something...which I eventually had to. Otherwise, if I got it, I use it. Heck, you GET the older stuff because it plays and sounds great, right? I could even understand if you don't want to bring something vintage and VERY valuable out to a club or something, but at least use it to record or jam or something, lol.
 
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Agreed, TGWIF. The mintiest guitars I've got still get played, and in the past, some of the most expensive accompanied me on deployment and still made it into the rotation.
 
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All guitars should be played.Played but perhaps not gigged, lets be realistic.
OTOH, I know a guy who refuses to recap or even put a three prong cord on any of his amps.Plays them that way ..one of them smoked on him- an old Super Reverb.
I think thats dangerous, but he's one of those guys that thinks he's so lucky nothing could ever happen to him or the amp if its playing okay.
Some one gave him a variac, and now he thinks he can just reform the caps on all his old amps .
 
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Those are collectors, not players/musicians.
 
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I am very guilty of the above mentioned sin...... if it is one. I play in front of folks that are there to enjoy themselves and most of the time are drunk on their a$$ before the night is out. My 64 Gibson will never see them. My 1950"s Martin will never see them. Sorry folks, those are my personal and bedroom guitars. They do get played, but now, only for me. I have seen too many drunks fall into a guitar stand and snap a neck. And I dare say, not one of them could tell the difference if I played my cheap made from a kit strat, from my late 1950's strat. To them, it will sound the same.

In fact, unless its your only guitar, you are a fool to take a piece of art like that to a gig and take a chance it will be destroyed.

Sorry. I totally disagree with using valuable and one of a kind musical instruments at gigs and parties.

Now, on the other hand, if you have a Stradivarius and have it in your hands on stage and can let everyone hear its beautiful tones, while they remain seated, and then when you are done, able to walk off with it, put it in its case and lock it away.....now thats okay.

Lets get real folks.. There is a time and place for beautiful and relic musical instruments in the performance arena, but most of the places I play at, not a chance.

Brad
 
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I have had some stuff stolen - bicycles, car stereo, caught people going through my backpack to steal stuff etc... I cant say it doesn't happen, I have had a few friends that had THEIR WHOLE BAND'S GEAR stolen out of their van ( so they could not get insurance $ even if they had insurance) etc...

that said, I still gig with my best stuff but not always for every gig ;)
 
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+1 to what Brad said. It's really situation dependent. If I was playing a dive bar with questionable patrons, no way would I take a valuable and fragile instrument. However, I'd have no problem taking a tele or strat of any kind anywhere. They'll stand up to anything.
 
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also I will not be showing up with my rick bass to the first jam session evah ;)

its like going straight into the getto, but before you go just deciding on driving ur mercedes and wearing the rolex, I mean bad stuff DOES happen
 
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Just got back from a gig and I used my Modern Eagle. It was however a private function, I won't be taking it to some of the pub gigs we do.... that's asking for trouble!
 
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Those are collectors, not players/musicians.

I think this is a misconception, because playing and collecting isn't mutually exclusive, unless you're talking about a non player or untalented guitar dude who buys because he can and thinks it's a thing to do.

I really think collecting and playing are two different things that intermingle.

I was always a player first, being most concerned with sounding and being professional. That meant giving up a lot of things teens do and spend their money on, to pursue music seriously.

Then, there's the side of it that's a hobby, where collecting get's put into it's own category, where you know the value of precious collectibles. That doesn't mean you can't use them. It just means that you have to protect an investment.

For that reason, a collector/player has to make a decision on what role certain pieces will have.

Players who are still at first or second base in experience have the perspective that you always play your favorite gear.....because it's the best you've afforded.....and it IS the best. That may be a couple thousand.

But after awhile, you may find yourself with some 'once in a lifetime' pieces that can't get dinged or thrashed in a musical environment. Sure, you'll still pull them out, play them, record with them, clean them and put them away, but you'd be sick if a headstock got chipped or something else tragically expensive.

Eventually, it's not about playing them or selling them, but allocating them to rare useage so they stay pristine. After all, there's dozens of other great guitars you've bought that do the job and are equally good as everyday instruments.

It may be different for those lucky few like Joe Bonamassa, Joe Perry, or Peter Frampton who can use 50's guitars with tons of insurance and roadies who act like personal security. Great for them!
That's a special privilege they have, being rich and never worried about money at the level of gear.

I've always been a guitarist first, and a gear aficionado second. And I've never been so snobbish about gear that I'm embarrassed to show up with a $400 guitar. The guitars I use in constant rotation at real gigs (and yeah, I've played thousands, and a lot at big venues) are pretty much divided between $2000+ guitars and $400 guitars that are dialed in.

At home are the 35th Ann. LP Custom, mint 2000 PRS McCarty, flametop CS ES-335, Marshall Jubilee stack, etc.
Most of the others make it out of the house. And with amps, all of them can be gigged as long as they have Tuki covers on them when getting moved.
 
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All of the musical gear that I've bought and own gets played or played through. I own top of the line stuff all the way down to bottom of the barrel stuff. Some of it doesn't get played as much as others, but it does get played or played through. At the moment I have a Gibson ES-335, EVH Wolfgang Special, ESP Vintage Plus Telecaster, B.C. Rich N.J. Series Mockingbird, Epiphone Les Paul Standard, and a Charvel San Dimas Style 2 2H all out and either sitting on a guitar stand or leaning up against a couch so that they can be played. In a week or two it'll probably be five or six completely different guitars.
 
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I have a Gibson ES-335, EVH Wolfgang Special, ESP Vintage Plus Telecaster, B.C. Rich N.J. Series Mockingbird, Epiphone Les Paul Standard, and a Charvel San Dimas Style 2 2H all out and either sitting on a guitar stand or leaning up against a couch so that they can be played. In a week or two it'll probably be five or six completely different guitars.

Once you own a decent number of guitars, it's like owning a music store, where you pull a few out for regular rotation, then choose a few others next week.

So all the guys who think someone's good guitars don't get played or gigged on.... The statistics are probably all over the place. There's collections, there's played collections, and player guitars from high to low. And dozens of other variations.
 
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Around the house there's not a whole lot you can mess up with normal use. In a bar, well, anything could happen.
 
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Play everything I own but I don't gig with my LP very much anymore, too many gig thefts.
 
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What is with that?!

I swear it drives me nuts to see guys that have valuable stuff be it older/vintage guitars, high dollar new guitar or limited edition pieces that they don't use because "it'll be worth more if I don't use it"...

Come on guys...don't be such babys about it!

You bought it, you paid good money for it, get some damn use out of it!!!!

So you're telling me that if you owned this: http://www.williesguitars.com/index.cfm/used_fender_electrics/2/inventory/2 that you'd just whip it out at a practice or gig and start bashing away on it?
 
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It's a real shame that some people's "investments" put certain instruments out of circulation among players.

That said, I am extremely careful with my older guitars when I take them out to gig, or even when playing them at home. I don't leave them out of their cases or out of my sight unless they are about to be played. I have three '68 guitars, and they are all 100 percent undamaged and 100 percent original. I'd hate to have to replace anything on them, or do any repairs. However, if these instruments were truly "investments" for me, I'd already have sold them. I think it is a dirty shame to have nice tools that sit unused.

FWIW, all accidental damage to any of my instruments has happened at home.
 
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