Now You Can "Blackout" Any Passive Pickup

[speed2dirt]

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Me too! I knew it could be done cuz Carvin has has active electronics with passive pups for years..

I just hope the orig pup character stays... C8 tone with active heat would be eargasmic!

What's so revolutionary about a passive pickup through an active preamp? Basses have been using this idea for years, but the preamps actually have EQs that can be tweaked. I think the idea of this preamp is that it has to make your pickup sound like a Blackout. If it didn't, it wouldn't be anything unique. Just my opinion with the very little information we've been given.

Any idea when this & the Liberator will be available? Is there any more insight/information SD can shed? I think the vagueness is letting people form presumptions that may be incorrect based on lack of information.

 

[tc]

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H.D.R. High-Definition Revoicer

The H.D.R. revoices and augments the frequency range of each pickup and allows the player to go from passive to active pickups
with the simple push of a button.

Th H.D.R. provides extra bite, dynamic response and redefines the
character of each pickup. It’s like having 2 sets of pickups in 1 guitar for 5 pure passive tones + 5 pure active tones.


. . . even on their P90s !!!

http://www.godinguitars.com/godinicon3p.htm - active P90s where is Leslie West now ?

I like the HDR. But I'm not a fan of Godin's single coils. They were just regular good, not exceptional good...the C5 with the HDR activated was the bomb though.

 

[SirJackdeFuzz]

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I like the HDR. But I'm not a fan of Godin's single coils. They were just regular good, not exceptional good...the C5 with the HDR activated was the bomb though.

OK . . . thanks.

I see they have this passive/active system with Duncan P-Rais too !

 

[BloodRose]

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I can't wait to see Screamin' Demon,Full Shred and Custom get active! :headbang:

This would REALLY have the Demon Screamin!!

Frank/Evan - any chance of getting an A/B soundclip comparison test posted of, say, a '59 and a JB in their "normal" configuration and then how they sound with this preamp?

Great Idea!!!

 

[permianrockguitar]

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The video shows the system installed on a Les Paul type with 2 volume pots. I'm guessing that this is going to be useless to anyone with a guitar with more than 1 pickup and only a single volume pot.

 

[frankfalbo]

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The video shows the system installed on a Les Paul type with 2 volume pots. I'm guessing that this is going to be useless to anyone with a guitar with more than 1 pickup and only a single volume pot.

Why would you guess that? The unit houses both neck and bridge preamps, and has individual preamp inputs and outputs for each, as well as separate, totally isolated potentiometer access. The potentiometer only plays the role of "host". You can wire it however you want:

Preamp outputs to switch, back to the potentiometer as a master volume
Preamp outputs to their own dedicated volume pots (one of them being the one that comes with the Blackouts Modular preamp then from volume pots to the switch.

 

[whatshisname]

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I wonder how long it'll be, before EMG releases a similar product, claiming that they had the idea first, with a slogan saying "We had the idea first, but we took our time to get it right." :laughing:

 

[idsnowdog]

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There's a lot of negativity floating around this product, without anyone ever using one! Must be a bunch of psychics?

 

[whatshisname]

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There's a lot of negativity floating around this product, without anyone ever using one! Must be a bunch of psychics?

No kidding! I'm really excited about it, and I haven't even THOUGHT of using active pickups in years!

 

[GoldenVulture]

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:scratchch

What will blueman say about this?
Back on the topic,when will we see the in-deep details,do's and do not's rules etc with this thing?
Damn now you guys make my GAS list longer again after Triple Shot and Liberator!

Can you tell us more about the " Coil Pack Pickups"?
Quote:
Coil Pack pickups are available separately as single neck or bridge replacement pickups or as part of a complete two-humbucker Blackouts Modular Preamp set.

The unit houses both neck and bridge preamps, and has individual preamp inputs and outputs for each, as well as separate, totally isolated potentiometer access. The potentiometer only plays the role of "host". You can wire it however you want:

Preamp outputs to switch, back to the potentiometer as a master volume
Preamp outputs to their own dedicated volume pots (one of them being the one that comes with the Blackouts Modular preamp then from volume pots to the switch.

:14:

 

[frankfalbo]

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There's a lot of negativity floating around this product, without anyone ever using one! Must be a bunch of psychics?

:laugh2: Yeah the good thing is that it's directly related to the excitement level. You're going to have people on both sides of it because it's a unique, new approach. "Blackouts that look passive?" that's disturbing enough, :scratchch then you have the follow up message "My choice of pickups through this Blackouts preamp?" :eyecrazy: They're both kind of jarring messages. It's a challenge with the marketing messages, too. You never know which of those two statements is more important to whomever is checking out your stuff.

Already in this thread someone said we missed the mark talking about the aesthetics before the tonal benefits, then other guys like Jolly say they wouldn't consider actives in their guitar because it doesn't look right. They're both right.

I'm just happy it's a cool product that will make a lot of guys happy. It'll be interesting to read the threads over the next year or so of how players are using it, and the tones they discover.

 

[tc]

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I just have to ask, what about the guys with 2 conductor pickups?

Don't be hatin' y'all...

I do have to ask, since there's a certain EQ-ing that's made to make the coil packs sound exactly like Blackouts, it won't work the same for each pickup set. That's obvious. It does make sense to inquire as to what pickups are the coil packs similar to in order to get an idea how the tone will be affected by the preamp...and also, what I'm understanding is that this is not actually a switchable affair right? It's just designed to be on all the time?

 

[Gearjoneser]

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This product is my favorite type of break through invention. My LP Goldtop is my general testbed for pickups, so it might be time to install 2 of these pots. My tone knobs both pull up to split the coils. I'm curious to see what the effect would be of adding these to a UOA5 Custom/Jazz would be. Probably really good.

 

[Gearjoneser]

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Now my mind is racing, wondering which Duncan set would sound completely amazing with the new pots. Maybe a 4 lead Nickel Pearly Gates set in a LP??

I'm wondering what Frank thinks. I know he loves Pearly Gates. I just want to know which passives would really be cool to have an extended range, and which ones Duncan beta tested with this new product???

 

[whatshisname]

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I'm thinking of getting some T-Top copies from HighOrder Pickups, and trying it with those. Hmmm...

 

[B2D]

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Street price? Release date?

I wanna try one!

 

[Gr8Scott]

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I would think that something with low output and a bright but not glassy top end would be great through this preamp. The one thing I think it really needs to make it a 100% killer / 0% filler product would be a push push switch to turn the preamp on and off built right into the unit. This would give the guitar the ability to function without a hot battery in it.

 

[whatshisname]

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I would think that something with low output and a bright but not glassy top end would be great through this preamp.

That's exactly why I was thinking of trying it with the T-Tops. :bigok:

 

[Phantasmagoria]

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Street price? Release date?

I wanna try one!

This. :approve:

 

[LtKojak]

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The video shows the system installed on a Les Paul type with 2 volume pots. I'm guessing that this is going to be useless to anyone with a guitar with more than 1 pickup and only a single volume pot.

Interesting... only ONE post and say something like this?

Piss-off, Troll boi! :naughty: