nut filing is driving me insane

[GuitarDoc]

Re: nut filing is driving me insane

I think that you are wrong. The Uo-Chiko files make slots that are smaller than the corresponding string gauge, and I can't imagine a technique that would make slots that are smaller than the files that are making them. And of course that one I have was a completely different size.

You obviously didn't read my post.

Read my post again (the whole thing) then retract what you just said. Files can't make slots that are smaller than they are, but they CAN make slots that are larger...like the example I gave in my post (that you failed to read or understand), a #9 file CAN make an appropriate slot for a #10 (or even a #11) string if you know what you are doing.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: nut filing is driving me insane

Just to get back to the original question here, they provided me with a 0.013 file that actually was 0.012, and two others in the set were tight besides. Moral: Don't buy their sets, buy individuals at least a step above your anticipated string size. And measure them before you use them, if you can.

Either that, or learn how to file a nut properly. I can use a .012 file to make a perfect slot for a .013 or even a .014 string, with little more effort than using the "properly sized" file.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: nut filing is driving me insane

Use a string as a file.

Only if you want to spend three weeks working on it (or forever if you are using the unwound strings to file a nut).

Yes, a really good suggestion. Or you could try using a straitened-out paper clip, or the edge of a credit card.

In all fairness, I think where you first heard of doing that, it was suggesting using a string to burnish the slot smooth after it was already filed.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: nut filing is driving me insane

I disagree with Mr. Erlewine here. He said that he sets the string height for the feel that he wants. May I modestly suggest that you set the height so that when you play a note on the first fret you're not stretching the string WAYYYY sharp?

That's learned in elementary nut slotting 101. It's assumed we're already up to slotting 103 where this video begins.

Even if you just set them "by the numbers", you'll be beyond "stretching the strings wayyy sharp", but you'll have an acceptable playing instrument. The best/most advanced way to do it is how it best feels to you (the player)

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: nut filing is driving me insane

ICTGoober,
Oh my gosh! I don't know what's happening to me. I actually agree with what you said. (And this isn't the first time lately).

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: nut filing is driving me insane

Re MrTondo's drawing...it really doesn't matter how high the nut is above the string. Once you get past the middle/center line/half way point of the string (as depicted in the drawing), none of the string touches any part of the nut anyway. There is no increased friction or binding. But, if you only make your nut slot as tall as half the width of the string, there is the risk of knocking it out of the slot when bending.

 

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Re: nut filing is driving me insane

One more comment:

Mr Strombasa, why did you resurrect this 4 year old zombie? Just to question the technique/advice of a well respected world renowned luthier? I can assure you, judging from the nature of your comments, that when Mr. Erlewine made that video, he was 10 time the luthier that you could ever hope to be in your lifetime. (Perhaps, even I am too).