Off center locking nut problem

[Manix]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

Ok i am up. I don't understand why you couldn't rasp out the nut mounting holes to an oval shape? then you could align it right and screw it down using the existing holes. No harm done.

Its not gonna effect how the screws hold the wood?Well if the nut doesnt doesnt work im gonna try it though.But the nut is 1 mm smaller so i think it will be the solution.

 

[kramersteen]

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Its not gonna effect how the screws hold the wood?Well if the nut doesnt doesnt work im gonna try it though.But the nut is 1 mm smaller so i think it will be the solution.

I don't think there would be any problem with the screws holding on, the only thing that will have changed is the nut so.

I have to stress i have never done it but i just cant see why it wouldn't work.

 

[Manix]

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Even though you havent done it , after seeing your paint job on these custom guitars i can trust your word i guess lol , beatifull especially the reaper

 

[kramersteen]

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Even though you havent done it , after seeing your paint job on these custom guitars i can trust your word i guess lol , beatifull especially the reaper

Thanks bro. But I think trusting my words 100% would be a mistake haha. Just have a good think about it before you do it. Its something i would try before going to the trouble of buying a new nut or plugging the holes but thats just me i am cheap ass.

 

[Ashurbanipal]

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İyi günler.

Looking at the photos, the strings look reasonably well aligned at the end of the fingerboard, but progressively veer to the treble side as you go down? If so, then it's the bridge that's likely to be out, rather than the nut. My first thought, anyway.

If it's actually the nut that's off, be careful about repositioning the holes - there's not a lot of wood there and the truss rod cavity too.

It's not a big deal if the nut itself is a tad narrower than the neck, as long as the string spacing and alignment is ok. When I put together my Ibanez RG410 partscaster recently, I bought a Gotoh nut for it (original Top Lok III hard to find and stupid expensive when available). The Gotoh's string spacing is a tad narrower than the original nut's would've been but nothing to cry over.

If you're getting a new nut, make sure it is the correct radius.

Got a shot of the whole guitar? I'm very fond of the Rhoads shape.

 

[TheLivingDead]

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Ah that sucks! Hope this turns out well for you dude. Shame LTD let that roll out the door.

 

[constant mesh]

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The advice kramersteen gave could work, but why would you file down a hardened nut? That will take some time before you get any results. Plug the holes, use a 3 or 4mm birch dowels and some PVA wood glue (Titebond etc.), don't use toothpicks.

It doesn't matter how oval the holes would be, the taper on the screw heads would always pull the nut in the initial position.

 

[Manix]

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Hey man thanks for the answer;
I hope its not the bridge nut is easier to fix
Nut;

As you see its smaller than the neck width;

Middle at the freatboard;

End of the neck;

String aligment on pole pieces, low e seems off center but its perfectly centered irl , only high e is towards left side

Here is the full body shot, i cant fit the guitar in frame easily lol and i love rhoads shape a lot too

TheLivingDead

Re: Off center locking nut problem
Ah that sucks! Hope this turns out well for you dude. Shame LTD let that roll out the door.

indeed, guitars i tried at stores was very nice, either i am unlucky or you nit pick little stuff at home more

constant mesh
Plug the holes, use a 3 or 4mm birch dowels and some PVA wood glue (Titebond etc.), don't use toothpicks.

im gonna try to find that stuff if needed.

 

[Ashurbanipal]

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Teşekkürler için resimler, they certainly show the issue better.

It seems that the alignment gets really bad around the 7th fret then not as bad at the end of the neck. I've seen an axe like this, an old neck through Ibanez, the problem was that the neck had twisted a bit, which is something worth diagnosing. One way to do it is to hold a long metal ruler (or nearest thing to it) against the side of the neck. If there's a gap, there's a twist.

Moving the nut over can help a little, but on your guitar it looks like alignment is ok on the first couple of frets.

Nice axe though. One thing I like about them is the scooped out shoulder for top fret access, something I feel the Jacksons would benefit from.

 

[Manix]

Re: Off center locking nut problem

Teşekkürler için resimler, they certainly show the issue better.

It seems that the alignment gets really bad around the 7th fret then not as bad at the end of the neck. I've seen an axe like this, an old neck through Ibanez, the problem was that the neck had twisted a bit, which is something worth diagnosing. One way to do it is to hold a long metal ruler (or nearest thing to it) against the side of the neck. If there's a gap, there's a twist.

Moving the nut over can help a little, but on your guitar it looks like alignment is ok on the first couple of frets.

Nice axe though. One thing I like about them is the scooped out shoulder for top fret access, something I feel the Jacksons would benefit from.

Thanks for response mate;
I checked it with a ruler(it was only 30 cm) and its not perfectly paralel ,slight gap 1 or 2 mm max.Well thats a bummer to be honest,there is no cure for that i guess.At least its not that bad.
Yeah its a good guitar and because the body is very thick there cutout is a must.

 

[Manix]

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I checked over and over again definetly neck is the problem.Its twisted, is there any cure for it?
Also i have a new problem im so happy right now:knockedou
binding at the low e side is kinda seperated from fretboard,there is a small gap.Its been there but just seemed bigger this day.Should i take it to a luthier to repair, im scaring it will get bigger(none of my guitars have wood problems, room temp and humidty is good)

 

[kramersteen]

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The advice kramersteen gave could work, but why would you file down a hardened nut?

So you don't have to dowel the holes. Its actually a good idea the more i think about it the more it makes sense. I am just saying if it was me i would try that before buying a new nut. But yeah this is because i am bit of cheapo.

manix I guess a new nut isn't worth all that much so you might as well treat your sweet axe to one. Neck through guitars are so sexy imo.

 

[kramersteen]

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I checked over and over again definetly neck is the problem.Its twisted, is there any cure for it?
Also i have a new problem im so happy right now:knockedou
binding at the low e side is kinda seperated from fretboard,there is a small gap.Its been there but just seemed bigger this day.Should i take it to a luthier to repair, im scaring it will get bigger(none of my guitars have wood problems, room temp and humidty is good)

Yikes man. this is a whole new issue now.. Damn neck through guitars hey lol?

 

[Manix]

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Yeah cant replace it sadly I love neckthru but bolt on necks without the bulky plate is very nice to be honest.
I hope neck doesnt continue to warp and make the gap bigger

 

[LonePhantom]

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Well at least the nut isn't the issue I guess. The strings definitely look fine at the first few frets. With regards to the neck it'll need work done by a luthier. Did you buy the guitar from a store? I'd be taking it back and either getting them to pay for repairs, or replace the guitar.

 

[Manix]

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I prefer the nut to be the issue hehe New nut on the way , gonna try it either way.
Well i bought it from ebay froma seller at Uk, a friend of mine in Uk picked it up and bring backed to Turkey when he came back.Too much hassle i know So guarantee is not an option and i thinks its not worth the repair, gonna keep it for now if it bothers me too much gonna sell it. :sad: Im very pissed of now , i swear my next guitar is gonna be at least a Usa Jackson -Esp level, even though im a ****ty player doesnt deserve them cant stand this kind of stuff in 1000 $ axes.

 

[Dr. Vegetable]

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There is no need to be upset.

 

[Manix]

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hahahahahaha that made me laugh today for the first time mate , how can i forget my motto

 

[Ashurbanipal]

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Ok, good to have a diagnosis. Even though 1-2mm doesn't seem like much, it makes quite a difference, as you can see.

I'd take it to a tech. One thing that can be done is steaming the neck and setting it in a vice so it gets straightened out. Maple is reasonably amenable to this, while keeping shape; some woods spring back.

Was the guitar like this when you got it, or did it develop since you bought it?

 

[Manix]

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It was like this when i received it.Im gonna ask a tech about it though ,hope its not super expensive.