Ok, I Give Up On The Marshall Jubilee

[Lake Placid Blues]

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Your right about the fashion thing. I recall not long ago when it was unfashionable to play a Jubilee. It probably still is in many locals. It runs in cycles. For awhile during the 90's an exotic name and logo was just about demanded. There will always be those who pre-judge you by the tools you show up to work with, and by your hair. Music people can be some of the shallowist people to deal with. Fender amps are always welcome just about anywhere, for anything, it seems though.

I was at blues festival once and I could hear people complaining about the use of Marshall 1/2 stacks on the stage in place the usual Fender combos. Well this was an outside gig, and the year before the combo's didn't cut it, despite micing up. A 1/2 stack works better outside it's just that simple, but still people had problems with the image.

 

[Gearjoneser]

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Yeah, the Jubilees have had their day in the sun, and what they do best is the 80's hotrodded Marshall sound the best. They'll do more, but that's their forte'.

I'm more of a roots rock and technical bluesrock type of player, so I just own the Jubilee as a 'do it all Marshall' and as a collectible. I scored the whole stack for $1400 a few years ago, and plan to keep it as a toy to play. As far as my preferences these days, my normal amp is the Ecstasy on the 2-12, which covers all tones from vintage to modern, and a short halfstack looks more normal in most situations. Showing up with a Jubilee halfstack would look a little funny for me.....it suited me better when I was 17-22. I'd be more likely to do a gig with the Goldtone.

 

[The Golden Boy]

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Count me among the "they're OK, but I wouldn't actively seek one out" party.

 

[34029324079]

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I think you should get a jcm 900 since they are pretty cheap nowdays and sound great

a long while ago I was hard up for cash and sold my JCM800 head and JCM800 4x12 for only $500 - I bought it at a guitar shop for $650...wish I had it now though; go figure...

 

[theodie]

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I kept my 2100 but sold my 2555 SL. It was a good amp, my 2100 was a bit better IMO. Not quite as versatile as the 2555 but, what it does it does alot better.

 

[ErikH]

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I totally agree with you, Dave. The 2100 just has the sound and the feel. To me the SL is a little on the thin side, sorta missing something. Every tech I've spoken to about the MkIII's says they're their favorite 900 series amps and prefer them over the SL as well, not to mention they say they're easier to work on.

 

[Lake Placid Blues]

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It's funny that you guys like the 2100's so much because 900's are one of the most dissed Marshalls. This whole the newer Marshalls can't sound as good as the old ones, and Marshall has gone to the dogs is a recurring theme though. I recall when the JCM800's were dissed and now they are highly considered. Before that it was the metal panal JMP amps weren't as good. The DSL's get dissed but they sound good and have a wonderfull clean tone as well...and so forth. Jeff Beck sure doesn't have a problem with the DSL 50.

 

[theodie]

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It's funny that you guys like the 2100's so much because 900's are one of the most dissed Marshalls. This whole the newer Marshalls can't sound as good as the old ones, and Marshall has gone to the dogs is a recurring theme though. I recall when the JCM800's were dissed and now they are highly considered. Before that it was the metal panal JMP amps weren't as good. The DSL's get dissed but they sound good and have a wonderfull clean tone as well...and so forth. Jeff Beck sure doesn't have a problem with the DSL 50.

Most of the 900's are dogs but, some of the models that were built were diamonds in the rough.

Read this, http://www.erikhansen.net/marshall/

ErikH will educate you well!

 

[OlinMusic]

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Really? 900s? I have heard a couple of good ones.

Truth be told, I was never into 800s at all. I liked Fenders, and then I heard Riveras and Mesa Dual Recs in the 90s and liked those, as well as a couple of other Mesa models.

I will admit after years having passed that I am fascinated with the Jubilee tone. I frankly preferred the 6100, and went with that thinking the Jube was next on the TRY IT list. The 6100 has a tight sound and AMAZING clean IMHO. Hell, Johnny A. plays Jazz on it. I finally decided to try the hype and see if a Jube was for me.

I have played in bands where another player had a DSL - sits in the mix very well. I have not played with 900s so much, but yes, they are dissed.

I was hoping to find with the Jube what I happened upon with my Metalface Plexi, something that was not originally on my radar, that I am impressed with.

At $1500 - $2100 I have to wonder about used Matchless, Bogner, etc.

A friend who manages high end for GC sold a SLASH model to a producer in the mid $2k range.

 

[ErikH]

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You can't go wrong with the MkIII 900's since their prices are still under a grand. You could pick up either the 50 or 100 watter for $500-$700 still. Mint ones are around $800.

 

[Lewguitar]

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Which 50 watt Marshall does Jeff Beck use these days?

I'm not familiar with the newer model numbers but he was using a three channel for a while thta he claimed the clean channel sounded just like or at least as nice as a plexi.

Lew

 

[Gearjoneser]

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Which 50 watt Marshall does Jeff Beck use these days?

I'm not familiar with the newer model numbers but he was using a three channel for a while thta he claimed the clean channel sounded just like or at least as nice as a plexi.

Lew

I have a video of Jeff Beck in 2001, using 2 DSL50 halfstacks, and the clean channels were cranked. They sorta sound like plexi's cranked up at a useable volume, then he uses an OD and controls the gain with his guitar's volume.

 

[OlinMusic]

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OK, I don't care how lame this sounds:

Cranked DSL 50 with pedals works for Beck hmmmmmmm *taking notes*. VERRRRRRRRRRRRRY INTERESTING!

I have felt that the DSLs sounds quite good, even better than the 900's perhaps? Ah, a new thread is in order!

 

[sosomething]

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$2100 for a Jubilee?? Wow. I don't want one anymore. Four months ago they could be had all over the place for $1200-$1400. I probably saw three in a week sell for under $1300 back April.

No thanks - I think I'll just continue to happily play my Splawn I got for $1300 almost a year ago.

 

[wixedmords]

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Gooderer is a word because I said so.

Your a nut TP.

Gooderer can be made more gooderer, and then at full extent it is gooderest.

Unless it is a family name, like Bob Gooderer. That family name would be the bringer of the better good, or the gooderer.

 

[tone?]

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just go and get a good marshall clone like an XTC or VHT or something like that and have all sorts of Marshall tones at useable volumes and then some.

sure Jeff beck can afford to crank a DSL50's clean channel to play. I had a JTM60 and its clean channel sounded pretty amazing but totally cranked. anything less and its quality dropped like crazy.

Marshalls are pretty great sounding but need to many tweaks. my 2 cents

 

[JeffB]

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Not a big fan of the Jubes either...I prefer the 800 2205/2210s in "higher " gain marshalls. Jubes and 900s (even the MKIIIs) have a tone that to me that is just not marshally enough. They "grind" rather than "roar"..and they don't have that sparkle on top but more of a "fizz".

But alot of it is speakers to me. The right speakers make all the diff...I HATED the DSLs with V30s, heard one through 75s and liked it a bit better...then heard one with the 12H's and was MIGHTY impressed...enough so that I would consider buying one if I ever got around to being able to have a full blown tube stack again.

I'll reserve my final judgement on Jubes and 900s til I hear them with speakers I like.

 

[theodie]

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Not a big fan of the Jubes either...I prefer the 800 2205/2210s in "higher " gain marshalls. Jubes and 900s (even the MKIIIs) have a tone that to me that is just not marshally enough. They "grind" rather than "roar"..and they don't have that sparkle on top but more of a "fizz".

But alot of it is speakers to me. The right speakers make all the diff...I HATED the DSLs with V30s, heard one through 75s and liked it a bit better...then heard one with the 12H's and was MIGHTY impressed...enough so that I would consider buying one if I ever got around to being able to have a full blown tube stack again.

I'll reserve my final judgement on Jubes and 900s til I hear them with speakers I like.

I didnt like the Slash with V30's or 75's but, I like the 2100 with both but, the V30's work a bit better for it.

 

[OlinMusic]

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Ugh Sorry To Re-hash This But...

Someone Offered To Sell Me A Half Stack Silver Jubilee 2555 With V30 Cab For $1800. There Was A Mod Done To V1, I Have A Pic. He Has Another One For Sale Bone Stock, And He Might Consider It Instead.

He Is Local.

 

[ErikH]

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Is the mod easily reversible? I don't know, $1800 seems kinda high to me.