OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

Lewguitar

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Got the new Custom Shop Pearly Gates today and put them in my Sunburst PRS SE Singlecut.

I have the regular Pearly Gates set in my Black PRS SE Singlecut.

Here's the box they came in:

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The CS Pearly Gates are wound hotter than the stock PG's: 7.8K for the Antiquity neck vs. 7.3K for the stock set...and 8.8K for the bridge vs. 8.21K for the stock set.

The covers are shiny new on the stock set and a flatter nickel finish on the Antiquity set. The covers are not aged though...just sort of flat. Like a nickel.

The CS set has vintage single conductor shielded cable. The stock set has 4 conductor cable in plastic.

Here's the guitars:

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So how do they sound?

Well I've only got an hour of playing time in.
 
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So how do they sound and how do they differ?

The stock set is a little lower in output. Brighter. More space in the tone. Not as dense in the mids. I always thought of them as being full and thick but the CS PG's are even fuller and thicker.

The CS set is a little higher in output. Not as bright. Warmer. Denser in tone. Thicker. Fatter. Rounder.

Both sets sound fantastic. Really, really good.

But there is a difference.

Although I never thought of the stock set as having an edge, they do have more of an edge than the CS set.

And although I never thought of the stock set as needing more output, the extra output of the CS set is welcome.

The bridge pickups in both sets do great pinch harmonics.

Like the bridge pickup, the neck pickup of the CS set is a little warmer and fuller. Although both necks are great and I can get wonderful clean chord sounds from either, the CS is fuller...richer.

I can set my amp for an overdriven sound for a tune like Santana's Europa and without changing the settings on my amp, I can clean up the neck pickup and start playing chords by lowering the volume control of the guitar. The sound doesn't get dark or muddy...it cleans up.

I'm very happy...and it's nice to have both guitars sounding a little different from each other.

Is the CS set worth $100 more? I think it is but it's not necessary to go for the CS set.

If I had just bought another stock set for the Sunburst Singlecut and never heard the CS PG's I would still be very satisfied.

Basically, both sets do the same thing. But the CS set has a little more growl, warmer treble and thicker mids. And, of course, a little more output.

I'll tell you what. When I plug in a new guitar and find myself just playing instead of testing that's a good sign.

When I start writing a new song that's an even better sign.

When I start to groan and make those soulful vocal noises we all make when we're really relaxed and playing well, just grooving and lost in the music, that's another very good sign.

And when I start to catch myself drooling a little (Yep...it happens) that's another good sign.

And I found myself doing all of the above while trying out the new Custom Shop Pearly Gates.

They are fantastic. But then, so is the stock set. ;)

Let's see...

The neck and bridge are nicely balanced. The neck pickup balances very well with the bridge pickup in both sets, but maybe even more nicely in the Antiquity set.

And: neither pickup in either set is too thin or too bright. Both are fat and full.

I don't know how that too thin/too bright nonsense got started but it's 100% untrue of the PG stock set and it's even more untrue of the Custom Shop set.

Both bridge pickups have a beautiful vowel like tonality and I can enhance that "OW" sound
by using my guitar's tone control.

I find myself shaping the tone with my tone control all the while I'm soloing with the bridge pickup, sometimes turning it almost all the way to zero but usually having it between 3 and 7.

That's another thing about the PG's: if you like that vowel like quality (what Clapton called his "woman tone") the PG bridge pickup has it in spades. Don't be afraid to use your tone control.

And if you're a player who doesn't use the guitar's tone control while you're soloing on the bridge pickup, I'd recommend learning how to use it. Because that's how you dial in the various "vowel" like and "vocal" like lead tones that are so much a part of the sound of the PG's.
 
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Groovy!!!

Well Done!

Thank you! I've been so looking forward to getting this set in my guitar.

I'll tell you the truth: either set is a better fit for me than the Alnico 4 Tom Holmes pickups I had in this guitar. Alnico 4 is just too bright and lacking in mids.

Kind of a steely sound compared to the Alnico 2 PG's.
 
Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

Great review! As one can tell I'm a huge fan of the CSPG, but honestly never played the standard version so your review has me now reflecting on using the standard issue PG in the future. What it interesting is you are A/B'ing them and finding the tonality differences but still report both versions are great. One can only surmise that the PG pickup "family" does not stray from its roots regardless of variant. This is a good thing as the CS pickup could have gone a bit sideways or have been truly magnificent (either way a drastic change) but it didn't. Sounds kinda like how Seymour has the A2P and the hotter Slash version mated up.
 
Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

I'll tell you the truth: either set is a better fit for me than the Alnico 4 Tom Holmes pickups I had in this guitar. Alnico 4 is just too bright and lacking in mids.

Kind of a steely sound compared to the Alnico 2 PG's.


There are other comments from members about A4's along those lines. Their flatter EQ doesn't please everyone. Although they're unoriented (as are A2's and A3's), they don't have as much of the character and color one might expect. They tend to be more neutral, which depending on the guitar/wood/PU, may or may not be what a player wants.
 
Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

There are other comments from members about A4's along those lines. Their flatter EQ doesn't please everyone. Although they're unoriented (as are A2's and A3's), they don't have as much of the character and color one might expect. They tend to be more neutral, which depending on the guitar/wood/PU, may or may not be what a player wants.
The A4 Holmes set did sound better in my Singlecut than they did in my double cutaway PRS. The Singlecut has more low end and a fuller tone. I still have a Holmes set in my 335. Don't know if they're A4 or A2 but they work well in that guitar. Not so bright and steely in the semi-hollow body. I don't play that ax as much as I did now that I have my PRS guitars. At one time though it was my only guitar with humbuckers. Sold most of my things 7 years ago when I got sick. But I'm better now.
 
Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

Great review! As one can tell I'm a huge fan of the CSPG, but honestly never played the standard version so your review has me now reflecting on using the standard issue PG in the future. What it interesting is you are A/B'ing them and finding the tonality differences but still report both versions are great. One can only surmise that the PG pickup "family" does not stray from its roots regardless of variant. This is a good thing as the CS pickup could have gone a bit sideways or have been truly magnificent (either way a drastic change) but it didn't. Sounds kinda like how Seymour has the A2P and the hotter Slash version mated up.
That .5 -.6k increase in DCR does apparently make a diff. Your analogy of the APH1 and APH2 is probably right on. I'd love to try that set...but I'm out of guitars. Those PRS SE's are terrific guitars tho. Especially used where you can find them for under $400. Thanks!
 
Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

Wait, how is an Antiquity set more powerful? I thought it is degaussed, or is it degaussed from an even stronger magnet to where it is?
 
Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

Wait, how is an Antiquity set more powerful? I thought it is degaussed, or is it degaussed from an even stronger magnet to where it is?
I don't know. The Custom Shop set definitely has more output and a denser tone though.
 
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its a custom shop pearly gates set not an antiquity set so my guess is the magnets arent very degaussed
 
Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

its a custom shop pearly gates set not an antiquity set so my guess is the magnets arent very degaussed

Jeremy's right. The box doesn't say Antiquity.

The covers aren't aged...just a dull nickel finish. Lightly antiqued but not like a true Antiquity.

The polepieces however are aged and are kind of dark blackish gray.

So the CS PG's are antiqued a bit.

No mention of Antiquity on the box though. I'll stop describing them that way.

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sounds like a great set of pups! and i totally agree about using the tone control with the bridge pup. in my hamer monaco elite i have the controls wired neck volume, bridge volume, bridge tone and i work that tone all the time. with the bridge tone all the way down and both pups on i get a great cocked wah thing going on thats cool for some fat overdriven soloing
 
Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

Jeremy's right. The box doesn't say Antiquity.

The covers aren't aged...just a dull nickel finish. Lightly antiqued but not like a true Antiquity.

The polepieces however are aged and are kind of dark blackish gray.

So the CS PG's are antiqued a bit.

No mention of Antiquity on the box though. I'll stop describing them that way.

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This set I believe share these names:

Custom Shop BFG (Billy F Gibbons) Pearly Gates ....aka as found in the Gibson BFG "Pearly Gates" 1959 Burst reissue guitars.

Custom Shop Pearly Gates

* Not to be confused with "standard" Pearly Gates, Pearly Gates+ or Antiquity
 
Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

This set I believe share these names:

Custom Shop BFG (Billy F Gibbons) Pearly Gates ....aka as found in the Gibson BFG "Pearly Gates" 1959 Burst reissue guitars.

Custom Shop Pearly Gates

* Not to be confused with "standard" Pearly Gates, Pearly Gates+ or Antiquity

Right. The seller, JMI Music, told me this is the exact same pickup that Billy actually uses in his stage guitars.
 
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nice write up lew - thanks for sharing

i am considering this exact question for my american PRS SC245 ... but then every time i play it, i like it well enough as-is and dont overcome the inertia enough to order something ... youtube video demos dont help because i have crappy laptop speakers so i can barely hear a difference between seth lovers and antiquities and pearly gates

yet somehow, i find something unspecifically unsatisfying about SOMEthing in my chain from the amp thru the pedals to the amp

i think its the player
 
Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

Nicely done, Lew. Thanks!

I was never a fan of the stock PG's because they sounded too bright for my tastes (I've always been a Antiquity & Seth fan). It sounds like the CS ones are more what I originally imagined the PG's should sound like before I tried some years ago..
 
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Is there any way we can hear them?
 
Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

I wish.

I never got around to setting up the little home studio I'd hoped to.

Got the mics, got the gear.

Guess I just don't have the burning desire to make recordings anymore.

I'll talk to our bass player. He has a home studio.

Maybe I can throw something together.
 
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