OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

Nice write-up Lew. Thanks for taking the time for a full review.

Sounds kinda like how Seymour has the A2P and the hotter Slash version mated up.

Your analogy of the APH1 and APH2 is probably right on.

+1. I have both the APH-1's and 2's, and you could almost substitute those terms in Lew's review for PG and CSPG.
However, to my ears, the Slash's definitely dominate. I hardly ever pick up the APH-1 axe anymore. (I need to revisit her.)
 
Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

So how do they sound and how do they differ?

The stock set is a little lower in output. Brighter. More space in the tone. Not as dense in the mids. I always thought of them as being full and thick but the CS PG's are even fuller and thicker.

The CS set is a little higher in output. Not as bright. Warmer. Denser in tone. Thicker. Fatter. Rounder.

Both sets sound fantastic. Really, really good.

But there is a difference.

Although I never thought of the stock set as having an edge, they do have more of an edge than the CS set.

And although I never thought of the stock set as needing more output, the extra output of the CS set is welcome.

The bridge pickups in both sets do great pinch harmonics.

Like the bridge pickup, the neck pickup of the CS set is a little warmer and fuller. Although both necks are great and I can get wonderful clean chord sounds from either, the CS is fuller...richer.

I can set my amp for an overdriven sound for a tune like Santana's Europa and without changing the settings on my amp, I can clean up the neck pickup and start playing chords by lowering the volume control of the guitar. The sound doesn't get dark or muddy...it cleans up.

I'm very happy...and it's nice to have both guitars sounding a little different from each other.

Is the CS set worth $100 more? I think it is but it's not necessary to go for the CS set.

If I had just bought another stock set for the Sunburst Singlecut and never heard the CS PG's I would still be very satisfied.

Basically, both sets do the same thing. But the CS set has a little more growl, warmer treble and thicker mids. And, of course, a little more output.

I'll tell you what. When I plug in a new guitar and find myself just playing instead of testing that's a good sign.

When I start writing a new song that's an even better sign.

When I start to groan and make those soulful vocal noises we all make when we're really relaxed and playing well, just grooving and lost in the music, that's another very good sign.

And when I start to catch myself drooling a little (Yep...it happens) that's another good sign.

And I found myself doing all of the above while trying out the new Antiquity Pearly Gates.

They are fantastic. But then, so is the stock set. ;)

Let's see...

The neck and bridge are nicely balanced. The neck pickup balances very well with the bridge pickup in both sets, but maybe even more nicely in the Antiquity set.

And: neither pickup in either set is too thin or too bright. Both are fat and full.

I don't know how that too thin/too bright nonsense got started but it's 100% untrue of the PG stock set and it's even more untrue of the Custom Shop set.

Both bridge pickups have a beautiful vowel like tonality and I can enhance that "OW" sound
by using my guitar's tone control.

I find myself shaping the tone with my tone control all the while I'm soloing with the bridge pickup, sometimes turning it almost all the way to zero but usually having it between 3 and 7.

That's another thing about the PG's: if you like that vowel like quality (what Clapton called his "woman tone") the PG bridge pickup has it in spades. Don't be afraid to use your tone control.

And if you're a player who doesn't use the guitar's tone control while you're soloing on the bridge pickup, I'd recommend learning how to use it. Because that's how you dial in the various "vowel" like and "vocal" like lead tones that are so much a part of the sound of the PG's.

I own both sets of PG's as described above in two of my LP's
And i totally agree with the above descriptions of them
And i'm about to pull the trigger on another Custom Shop set for my third LP
Put simply, they are fantastic pickups and the best i've ever used in over 40 years of playing
To me, they are exactly what a PAF should sound like and i love them and can't stop playing them
They inspire me and make me a better player
 
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Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

I have both. I replaced the production line set with the custom shop (no wax). With the production set, I really, really like the neck pu as it is right where I want with it's tone pot rolled off. I always thought the production bridge had a bit more high end than I wanted, but I just rolled the tone back and it was fine. With the Custom shop, yes they have more output, and perhaps are a bit more alive with their responsiveness. Either set sounds great, but I would be fine with the production set if a few extra dollars is a big deal.
 
Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

I recently played the stock PG bridge in a mahogany telecaster and really liked it. I noticed it lacked some low-end (to my ears). Do you notice that from the custom shop PGb ?
 
Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

It is hard for me to tell if the PG lascks low end, or I am gust hearing the expanded high end.
 
Re: OK: Stock Pearly Gates vs. Custom Shop Pearly Gates

Re: OK: Stock Pearly Gates vs. Custom Shop Pearly Gates

Got the new Custom Shop Pearly Gates today and put them in my Sunburst PRS SE Singlecut.

I have the regular Pearly Gates set in my Black PRS SE Singlecut.

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The CS Pearly Gates are wound hotter than the stock PG's: 7.8K for the Antiquity neck vs. 7.3K for the stock set...and 8.8K for the bridge vs. 8.21K for the stock set.

The covers are shiny new on the stock set and a flatter nickel finish on the Antiquity set. The covers are not aged though...just sort of flat. Like a nickel.

The CS set has vintage single conductor shielded cable. The stock set has 4 conductor cable in plastic.

Here's the guitars:

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So how do they sound?

Well I've only got an hour of playing time in.

I removed the picture just to avoid lengthening the thread.

I love, love, love, love them. They're the set in the top guitar in my avatar. I do not have a set of stock Pearly Gates pickups, but I have played Strats with them in the bridge in trembucker form. I don't have good enough memory to say how the custom shop versions stack up. I went custom shop for two reasons:

1). I could get them unpotted; and
2). I found a set in double creme.

I just put the Antiquities back in the guitar the Pearlies have been in, and I didn't play it a half hour before I took them back out. Antiquities are great pickups, but the CS Pearlies are better for what I want, especially in that particular guitar. They are everything you love about unpotted PAF style pickups, but they have a grunt and a thickness to the tone that others like the Antiquities just don't have. I can't recommend them highly enough.

Mine are wound to 7.5/8.5, which is probably not significant compared to yours.
 
Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

Sorry - I just realized this was a 4 year old thread and I responded to the OP as if it was posted yesterday.

@Mincer, the Custom Shop models I have in my LP don't lack for low end at all. Plenty of grunt. They strike me as very balanced pickups.
 
Re: OK: Pearly Gates stock vs. Antiquity Pearly Gates Custom Shop!

i love the stock pg set but the cs pg bridge is a damn fine pup! compared to the antiquities, im not surprised you pulled them. i love the ants but they dont have the push or punch the pg does, even the normal pg set. full strength magnets in the ants do juice them up quite a bit
 
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