Okay, I guess I'm warming up to DiMarzios

Masta' C said:
Honestly, it sounds like you have an issue with the patent office, rather than DiMarzio.
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Nobody is perfect. The issue is that companies like DiMarzio throw all kinds of crap at the wall and see what sticks. You get a weaker person in the office and it will be extremely hard (a lawsuit) to get rid of the patent or trademark. That's a business model and I don't like it.
 
The double crème thing is as a dick move but stealing from Kinnman and then suing him on top of it was flat out shitty. Kinnman didn’t get his affairs in order for sure but it a was a still shitty. That being said I have a few Dimarzio and have had many others throughout the years.
 
My current DiMarzio stable
- Superdistortions in the bridge of two Les Pauls - Classic!
- PAF in the neck of a Les Paul - Also Classic!
- Fast Track 2 in the bridge of a Strat (with a split) - from Iron Maiden to Stevie Ray with a mini switch
- X2N in a Hello Kitty Strat - Over the top and then some!
- Liquifire/Crunchlab in a Superstrat - Great for the 80's metal stuff
- Area PJ set in a Squire bass - way more punchy and powerful vs whatever was in there!
- HS3's waiting for install in my YJM project

No ToneZones loaded anywhere...at this time. But there has often been.

Nothing wrong with DiMarzio. Just different.
 
I was perfectly happy as a loyal Duncan user for a long time, and there have only been a handful of Duncan pickups that turned me off. One such pair was a P-Rails set that I had in a Dean Soltero. A few years ago I stumbled on DiMarzio's annual sale and took a chance on a Super Distortion and 36th Anniversary PAF neck (yes, in double cream). Holy crap, I discovered what many before me already knew - that the Super Distortion is an epic hard rock and metal pickup in a Les Paul style guitar. The Soltero went from the verge of being sold to near the top of my rotation.

I also have a baritone thinline with Area T neck and Area T 615, the latter is going to be replaced with a Chopper T soon. I also have a zebra set of a Fred and PAF Joe on the way, which for the time being will be installed in a strat.
 
I think most companies make pickups I would be OK with. Also, most companies make models I certainly would not like.
 
Huge fan here.

I currently have 1 duncan set, a pair of full shreds

Dimarzios?

Tried:
Tone zone
Steve's special
evo

own:
36ths
Transitions
Paf joe/mo'joe
Satch track/mo'joe
Breeds
Norton
Air norton
Air norton s
DActivator bridge

I got a set of dark matter 2s this year.

Still wanna try
Bluesbucker
Illuminators
Breed neck in bridge
Dominions
Paf pro

The problem is that I am out of guitars!!!
My as73 semi has hbp90s. I guess i could swap those out. Lol.

My ears like that dimarzio midrange thing.

Out of the above: i love the breeds. Fat humbucker tones that you dont have to roll your tone knob down to get, and great split tones.

I also like paf joe alot. Ok more than alot. Lol.

Mo'joe is super cool. More cutting in alder, like a 9-10k modern hot paf. In mahogany, its much thicker and fatter. I can't believe its the same pickup, they're so different.

On a side note, the paf joe/mo'joe combo sounds killer in the middle position.....again in mahogany, full or split.

They have 72 different full sized humbuckers. If you can't find something you like, it's not for lack of variety.
 
Archer250 said:
Real hahaha
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The struggle is real.


I stick with dimarzios for practical reasons too.
Sticking to dimarzio, if I don't like one, its easier to get a baseline and choose another pretty easily. Trying to find an *insert pickup brand here* that is just a bit more XXXX than a Fred forvinstance is alot harder than selecting another pickup from the paf pro lineage.
 
uOpt said:
I don't mind all trademarks and patents DiMarzio holds or held. Just the utterly trivial ones that shouldn't have been granted in the first place.

Can you name a SD patent that is as trivial as putting together two coils with different wire gauge?
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SD has a trademark on the phrase "Encryption Tone" when used in conjunction with pickups. Either they have something big up their sleeve or they are sitting on a phrase no one is ever going to try to steal.

BTW, The Dimarzio patent is specifically for two coils of wire with a different guage wound to the same turn count on a pickup of standard humbucker topology. You can get around this fairly easily in a number of ways if it means that much to you.

As a second aside, if you look at the original trademark, it would seem that it only covers dual hex double cream pickups. Why none of the proceedings against them have pointed this out, I don't know
 
nienturi said:
What kind of tone does it have? What i expect are loud, compressed, thick. But bright-ish, piercing or something darker, i don't know. What do you think about X2N on a super strats bridge?
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IME, the X2N is anything but bright. It has tons of metal because of the blades jacking up the inductance and it has a brass baseplate. I would say it's about as dark as a Hot Rails, if you've tried those, just with a ton more bass. Kinda akin to the Invader, just not as mid pushed.
 
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Chistopher said:
SD has a trademark on the phrase "Encryption Tone" when used in conjunction with pickups. Either they have something big up their sleeve or they are sitting on a phrase no one is ever going to try to steal.
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I don't see how that affects customers right now. Or in the future for that matter. Nobody can see or hear a pickup name or pickup feature name.
 
uOpt said:
I don't see how that affects customers right now. Or in the future for that matter. Nobody can see or hear a pickup name or pickup feature name.
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95% of selling pickups is brand names and advertising. If Seymour Duncan puts out a Joey Bonamassa's Smokin Hot Bluesmachine bridge model, that's going to get completely different sales and customer reactions than if the exact same pickup were sold as a Bare Knuckle neck humbucker called Crimson Oracle.

When you buy an SD that you have never tried, you are buying it based on the reputation that past SD products have established with you, as well as faith that the recommended genres and sounds of the advertising literature line up with what you want.
 
Chistopher said:
95% of selling pickups is brand names and advertising. If Seymour Duncan puts out a Joey Bonamassa's Smokin Hot Bluesmachine bridge model, that's going to get completely different sales and customer reactions than if the exact same pickup were sold as a Bare Knuckle neck humbucker called Crimson Oracle.

When you buy an SD that you have never tried, you are buying it based on the reputation that past SD products have established with you, as well as faith that the recommended genres and sounds of the advertising literature line up with what you want.
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So? That does nothing to my experience as a buyer, including as a DiMarzio buyer.
 
nienturi said:
What kind of tone does it have? What i expect are loud, compressed, thick. But bright-ish, piercing or something darker, i don't know. What do you think about X2N on a super strats bridge?
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Loud - check
Thick - check
Even EQ - check
Loud - check again!
Compressed - check
Loud - Can't say this too much...
 
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