? on SD Pedals with or without digital modeling

[dwwave]

Hi,
I am brand new to the forum.
I use a Atomic Reactor Amplifier . a 18 watt tube slave amp and alternate
using a Line 6 Podxt or a Vox Tonelab (desktop Model) in the amp. I also
have a 15 watt Vox Pathfinder (solid state (non reverb model)

I also use the processors out of the Atomic Amp to record direct via usb
(through a Tascam US-122(though that is not a requirement with the POdxt)

Could I use a Seymour Duncan Effects pedal before the POdxt or Vox Tonelab then into the Tascam US-122 USB interface?
Such as The Twin Tube Classic or Pick Up Booster.

I (think) the other effects units Tweak Fuzz, Lava Box or ShapeShifter
would be better used without the processors or with the Vox Pathfinder
(I would think) also the Twin Tube Classic or Pick up Booster would also
be used by themselves with the Vox Pathfinder.

I am not familiar with the effects units and the reason I am asking
is I was the winner of a Seymour Duncan Giveaway and I am almost positive
I am going with a effects pedal rather that pick ups (though the p/u's are super.

I play mostly alternative, ambient, blues, experimental.
Guitars=Gibson Blueshawk, Epiphone Elitist 57' Goldtop, Line 6 Variax 500,
Schecter Tempest Deluxe (dual HB with coil tap) and a PRS Tremonti SE, Dual HB with dual Volume and Tone controls)(which is my son's and we discussed changing the pick ups on and he is satisfied with the stock ones) I considered changing out the Schecter but
they sound fine as do the others guitars.I am also all thumbs as far as doing
that kind of work (changing pick ups) I would hate to damage the new p/u's
or the guitar.

In closing (sorry for the long post) any hints on the pedals , I use a Mac
and could not get any of the hear/video samples to work. I did get two
unit samples on the MF site. Many Thanks
dwwave

 

[baritone]

Re: ? on SD Pedals with or without digital modeling

Yeah, it would work.

 

[Luke Duke]

Re: ? on SD Pedals with or without digital modeling

Using a non-tube preamp with the pup booster might sound a bit fidelic to some folks, but the honly way to know if YOU like it is to try.

Luke

 

[dwwave]

Re: ? on SD Pedals with or without digital modeling

Hi,

Thanks For the replies I am leaning towards the Twin Tube model
as all of my guitars have humbuckers (where it seems, I may be incorrect)
that the SD p/u booster works or is designed for single coil use
one of my guitars has a coil tap but the Twin Tube could be used as a
pre-amp when when recording direct, by itself when recording direct,
with my 15 watt solid state Vox Pathfinder and I read reviews in Harmony Central and one guitar player used this signal chain
Guitar-Seymour Duncan Twin Tube-50 watt Atomic Reactor with a Pod in it
(did not say which Pod (Pod 2.0 or Podxt)

Thanks Again!

 

[Luke Duke]

Re: ? on SD Pedals with or without digital modeling

Hi,

Thanks For the replies I am leaning towards the Twin Tube model
as all of my guitars have humbuckers (where it seems, I may be incorrect)
that the SD p/u booster works or is designed for single coil use
one of my guitars has a coil tap but the Twin Tube could be used as a
pre-amp when when recording direct, by itself when recording direct,
with my 15 watt solid state Vox Pathfinder and I read reviews in Harmony Central and one guitar player used this signal chain
Guitar-Seymour Duncan Twin Tube-50 watt Atomic Reactor with a Pod in it
(did not say which Pod (Pod 2.0 or Podxt)

Thanks Again!

Actually the pup booster is for humbucker OR single coils. The resonance switch just beefs up the SC sound. Take your rig to your local dealer and try it, you might love it. The pup booster has a VERY flat EQ response.

Luke

 

[dwwave]

Re: ? on SD Pedals with or without digital modeling

Luke Duke,

That is very interesting re: The Pick up Booster, when I first read about it

when it came out (most likely online or in a Guitar Magazine) I was quite

interested in it but never proceeded. As I had mentioned I won the

Contest Giveaway and am trying to figure out which unit would fit my needs

the best. Locally we only have a Guitar Center (the brick and morter shops

were driven out after about 6-12 months and were much more helpful)

They (GC) are on the online dealer list, I will check their website and see if

any of the units are in stock locally. Our local store is a rather wild store filled with alot of kids whose parents drop them off and I have seen guitars dragged across the floor to available amps. But it would be worth going in
to check the units out and use one of their dual HB guitars and maybe a

Vox Valvetronicx amp (as I use a Vox Tonelab , both in a Atomic Reactor amp or out of the amp for direct recording) I have had 3 spine surgeries
so sometimes working on the floor seting up a mic stand , microphone, cables and working with the controls is hard on my back and those days I record direct and have the units on a worktable next to my computer workstation. I bought individual docking stations for both the Podxt and the Vox Tonelab so its easy to swap them out as its extra protection for them
(as a after thought) I also have a Roger Linn Adrennalin II and a M-Audio Black Box (long story) plus a small Korg Ampworks and the first modeling unit I bought I still have is a Korg Pandora PX-3, Guess I have GAS with
modeling units, you can run most of them or all of them through the
?effects loop in (its in the directions and not hard at all)

I bought The Atomic Amp and docking stations frorm Sam Ash and AMS
where now they are sold from the web site only. Getting off track here.

Thanks again
dwwave

 

[millsart]

Re: ? on SD Pedals with or without digital modeling

I can't speak for the Atomix (though I've heard they are pretty sweet and really do the modelers justice) but I have had a tonelab and pod (the original) before and was rather disapointed using any sort of boosters/od's in front of them.

The tonelab is really picky about input gain if you don't want it to sound fizzy. The POD even more so as it quickly gets a very compressed and harsh digital fizzyness (not that it was exactly great on its own. im sure later models have gotten warmer)

Basically its just the nature of digital verses analog thats the issue I belive. Clip a digital input and you get very harsh horrible sounding distortion. Clip an analog pre and you get a nice musical breakup. Its just the all or nothing aspect of digital. Its very accurate provided its got the headroom and then goes to pot as soon as its exceeded. Even with boosters you really don't see a big volume boost for solo's, rather it just clips once that point is reached.

As such, I've always simply stuff to modulation effects with modelers. they handle those just fine. Your atomix should add a bit of warmth and character in the poweramp as well so I don't think you'd see a real difference in using any sort of tube pre as for as warmth goes on the input for what its worth as well.

 

[dwwave]

Re: ? on SD Pedals with or without digital modeling

Milsart,

I am a (bit) technology challenged by your reply I certainly appreciate it please

do not take that wrong. I guess I am wondering is the Twin Tube viewed

more as a overdrive than a pre-amp. I was "thinking" using the

Guitar-Twin Tube-Podxt-Tascam USB Interface-Computer DAW that iw would

add warmth to the digital modeling in the PODXT (it does sound very nice

direct on its own but putting it in a Atomic Amp (alternating with a Vox

Tonelab ) it really brings them both to another level (higher) imo

I could use the Twin Tube on its own Guitar-Twin Tube-Tascam USB-Computer DAW as well.

I am not sure if the other effects units would fit my needs (unless used

on their own) as I mentioned I won the $250.00 Giveaway (which I still can

not believe!) I certainly appreciate your input!

Thanks Again!:friday:

dwwave