One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

[SirJackdeFuzz]

Here is a simulated scenario for you.

You play in a metal band.
You go to another city, where you play the amp(s) that is already there, but when you get to the gig, you see to your shock, there is only a Fender Twin Reverb for you.
Luckily there is a well equipped guitar store (no rentals) around the corner that is still open for the next 10min.
What pedal would you borrow, to get the gig done ?

 

[dave74]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

Works well in front or into the return IMO, although when you run through the front it gets more complicated due to all the EQ overlaps and the need to get the levels of volume and input/gain matched and balanced right to achieve one's desired tonal response. Personally I think the potential is greater through the front because you have so many more parameters to play with, and it doesn't have to be through the front into the clean, it can be massive as a dirty or pushed-clean booster/EQ.

 

[SirJackdeFuzz]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

Works well in front or into the return IMO, although when you run through the front it gets more complicated due to all the EQ overlaps and the need to get the levels of volume and input/gain matched and balanced right to achieve one's desired tonal response. Personally I think the potential is greater through the front because you have so many more parameters to play with, and it doesn't have to be through the front into the clean, it can be massive as a dirty or pushed-clean booster/EQ.

. . . yup, i saw that clip.

 

[shupe13]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

A Mooer Black Truck is all you need.

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[dave74]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

For this scenario it's also worth noting that $50 or less will get you a fresh MT-2 at about any music store in the civilized world, and they all have at least two beat-up zones for $30ish lol.

 

[Chistopher]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

Yeah, that MT-2 video has certainly made the rounds recently. Personally I say a Fender Twin Reverb will have trouble getting good metal tones no matter how you slice it.

Personally, I'd go and buy an Orange Micro Terror and a decent cab off the used rack. They might even spend some time at my house after the gig.

 

[Mincer]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

I'd go for the Palladium.

 

[JB_From_Hell]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

The Palladium sounds like a good distortion box, but the demo really didn't sound like what I think of as a modern metal tone.

That look on Ola's face when he turns on the MT-2 is hysterical. He certainly debunked the idea of the Metal Zone being worthless. I took a lot of crap on here back in the day for being a fan.

 

[devastone]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

Andy in the demo isn't a metal player, I'd look for a Palladium, 5150, or something along that line.

Or, an AMT D2, R2, or something along those lines, maybe even one of the Mooer Micro preamps which should work well into a really clean amp.

Or, as mentioned, the Mooer Black Truck, a guy on sevenstring.org says the distortion sounds just like his AmpTweaker TightMetal (or maybe Fat Metal?)

The Metal Zone definitely sounded better in the loop in Ola's demo, I'm still not a huge fan.

*EDIT* forgot about the ISP Theta, those sound great, no shortage of gain but might be a little smooth sounding.

 

[Demanic]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

Another vote for the MT-2.

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[Artie]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

Andy in the demo isn't a metal player, I'd look for a Palladium, 5150, or something along that line.

^ +1 Add the Bogner Uberschall to that short list.

 

[treyhaislip]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

Mad Professor Stone Grey–extremely articulate even with the distortion dialed all the way up. It's my high gain go to through my Fender Blues Deluxe. It absolutely lives up Mad Professor's description from my experience.

 

[devastone]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

Lots of good choices!

 

[Rex_Rocker]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

I think the Metalzone sounds OK in those vids when used as a preamp, but there's better choices out there now. Sounds OK for the price, though.

 

[IMENATOR]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

Any AMT Preamp into the FX return, once I tried the SS-20 into the fx return of a Fender HotRodDeluxe iii, a radically different amp. Maybe a Boss GE-7 to fine tweak the EQ and you are ready to go.

 

[Boogie Bill]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

Uh...guys...Twin Reverb doesn't have an efx loop.

Bill

 

[devastone]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

That's why I recommended some of the AMT "2" series, they have an outs for the front of an amp, loop, or direct.

 

[Boogie Bill]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

One pedal that came to my mind is the Tech 21 Fly Rig, specifically the Kotzen Sig. version.

Bill

 

[devastone]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

The RK5 is a great pedal, but I wouldn't call it modern metal at all.

 

[stratguy23]

Re: One pedal for a modern metal tone . . . into a clean'ish amp.

3 choices immediately come to mind - the MXR 5150, the Seymour Duncan Palladium, and the Empress Heavy.

The last one is not as well known, but to me it's the most dead-on metal-in-a-box pedal I've played. The 5150 and Palladium are great, too, but I feel that they're almost so amp-like that they benefit most from having a TS-type of overdrive in front. The Palladium has a built-in boost, but I didn't find that quite up to the task.

The Empress Heavy is so aggressive and tight it doesn't need everything in front of it. Also it has an amazing noise gate that can shut out single coil noise without sounding unnatural.

PS. I like Boss stuff, but the Metal Zone may be the worst pedal I have ever played.