Orange 35 question

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Other guitar player uses one for practice. Sounds fine with speaker, but when he runs out through the preamp….sound like fizzy crap.

Anyone know about this? Amp broke or is that just how it rolls?
 
Re: Orange 35 question

Orange amps have almost no headroom, without hearing the fizzy sound your talking about I can't say for sure but my guess is that's just the way it rolls? If the preamp is adding any gain at all that would be a reasonable result from an Orange head??? They are great plug & play amps if you want classic to heavy metal distortion but they don't make very good Jazz amps? Try to ristict the signal some with a E.Q., it might help some? I have to do that with my Orange if I want any kind of decent clean tone out of it & even with the amp restricted it starts breaking up around 10:00???
 
Re: Orange 35 question

Other guitar player uses one for practice. Sounds fine with speaker, but when he runs out through the preamp….sound like fizzy crap.

Anyone know about this? Amp broke or is that just how it rolls?

When you say "runs out through the preamp" do you mean a direct line out to a board or recording interface?

What you describe sounds like most preamps out directly to mixer or recording interface and get real fizzy because they don't hit power amp/speaker emulation. Have you tried a DI box like a redbox or similar cab sim?
 
Re: Orange 35 question

Ahhhh….no speaker emulation. That may be it.

My Cube sounds fantastic straight to the board. But the other guy's amp sounds like a sick MetalZone trying to be a fuzz…
 
Re: Orange 35 question

Ahhhh….no speaker emulation. That may be it.

My Cube sounds fantastic straight to the board. But the other guy's amp sounds like a sick MetalZone trying to be a fuzz…

Some amps have it and some don't. If you have any modeling software you can hear the same thing when turning off cab emulation. Fizzy mess and really thin sounding.
 
Re: Orange 35 question

Other guitar player uses one for practice. Sounds fine with speaker, but when he runs out through the preamp….sound like fizzy crap.

Anyone know about this? Amp broke or is that just how it rolls?

That's how preamp outs work. :D
 
Re: Orange 35 question

Preamp outs need a speaker sim to sound a lot less crappier. It's because guitar speakers typically filter out the crappy distorted high frequencies that you're hearing from the line out.
 
Re: Orange 35 question

Well, not all preamp outs. Like I said….my Cube sounds fantastic. But like you guys said….also probably has cab sim going.
 
Re: Orange 35 question

Well, not all preamp outs. Like I said….my Cube sounds fantastic. But like you guys said….also probably has cab sim going.

Does it say "line out" or does it specifically say "preamp out" (with a matching return)? I'm not seeing Cubes that have FX loops.

Preamp out = FX Send. A preamp by itself will always sound fizzy, as you're missing the power amp and cabinet/speaker interaction.
 
Re: Orange 35 question

Cubes have speaker sim out in the headphones out and line out. Fact.

That's why yours sounds good and his amp doesn't that way.
 
Re: Orange 35 question

In twenty first century Roland Cube amplifiers, the effects of a power amp stage are part of the digital modelling. The actual power amplifier is a simple, linear, "make louder" stage.
 
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