Orange Dark Terror

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Kenny

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Hey.
I found a Orange dark terror had in a local store. I gave it a try. Oh. This thing sounded so amazing. But it has only one chanel.
I was wondering if the 15 watts head is loud enough to compete drummer in rehearsal?
If I play clean will it be as loud as when it is on high gain?
 
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Through a 4x12 playing distorted you'll be fine. Those amps have a decent clean tone but they're designed to be high gain.
 
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Kenny said:
If I play clean will it be as loud as when it is on high gain?
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The headroom is pretty low on them. If you want loud cleans you need a different amp. They will do cleanish tones up loud but not sparkling clean.
 
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I am looking for compact gear, because next few year I am gonna live not in my country (university) and probably will be moving a lot.
I don't play clean that much)) Do you guys think that it will be loud enough to compete with drummer only with 1x12 cab?
If you have other suggestions I am open for them)) :)
 
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Yes, the V30 is a pretty efficienty speaker compared to several other Celestions which will help you compete with a drummer.

I'm pretty sure those can keep up with a drummer even through a 1x12 as long as the 1x12 has a fairly efficient speaker.

Keep in mind, though, volume-wise, I'm sure you'll have no trouble keeping up with even a loud drummer, but the more you turn those smaller amps up, the more the poweramp distorts and loses control of the low-end. So do not expect the big, bold, open yet tight and controlled sound of a 100 watt head through a 4x12 at loud volumes... which might not necessarly be a bad thing. Depends on what you're going for.
 
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In the country where I am from we don't have any tube amps. Not a lot of people play music. Specially metal. I ve seen only combos. So I don't know how 100 watt head sounds through 4x12. So I don't really have experience. What did you mean by efficient speaker?
Yeah so I wanna use 1x12 but doesn the Ohms matters? The amp has two outputs for 8 Ohms and one for 16 ohm. If I have the 8 ohm speaker plugged into 8 ohm output will it be se same loud as the 16 ohm speaker two 16 ohm output?
I have also have Marshal DSL40c in my list. Little bit heavier and more expensive but it has 40 watts.
P.S. Currently I am in Germany that is why I wanna buy an amp here.
 
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Kenny said:
Yeah and what do you think about this can for the Orange head? It has Celestion Vintage 30. I ve read that this speaker is one of the best
http://www.thomann.de/de/harley_benton_g112vintage.htm
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Those harley benton cabs lick sack. I wouldnt use one to plant flowers in. Find a better cab.

No matter what you do with a 1x12 you will always have a really small focused beam of sound where you are heard... step a foot to the side of it and you will disappear. In a small jam room this might not be a problem. But in a more open space like a bar is a real problem without miking the amp.
 
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Nobody wants their cab to lick sack.
 
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Those Tiny Terror and Dark Terror amps are amazingly loud for 2 EL-84's. When you turn the volume way up, and just bring the gain up to taste, you'll see that it's really like a 40 or 50 watt amp. And at the volume you'll be at, the amp will be normal for most rhythm sections, and really fill a room with sweet tone, because the Orange amp is at it's sweet spot.

The great thing about those Orange lunchbox heads is that you can run them with the gain higher, and volume low for home playing, and then reverse the knobs for live. They're simple, but always in the sweet spot, volume-wise.

For live, it's way better if you can find a 212 or 412 to run with the Terror. You really put out some volume with more speakers.
 
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How to choose 1x12 cab? What matters? Is it only the speaker and Ohm? Or there is something else. What do you think about the cab I posted before. Harley Benton G112 Vintage
 
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Kenny said:
How to choose 1x12 cab? What matters? Is it only the speaker and Ohm? Or there is something else. What do you think about the cab I posted before. Harley Benton G112 Vintage
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Those harley benton cabs are... how to put this nicely... junk. They are made of low quality press board and have flimsy coverings. Please dont think that the cab a speaker is in doesnt effect the tone cause it does. If you are buying this and it will sit in your living room and never move it and you dig the sound then go ahead. But if its something you are going to drag around and toss in the back of a truck and haul it to shows then its going to show its quality pretty quick.
 
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you gotta get the orange cab. mine sounds great with my jim root terror. its pretty loud for small spaces and too loud for the home. i have attenuator and makeshift iso box if not playing loud when nobody's around. in future i may get rid of the orange amp but i will keep the cabinet
 
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Kenny said:
In the country where I am from we don't have any tube amps. Not a lot of people play music. Specially metal. I ve seen only combos. So I don't know how 100 watt head sounds through 4x12. So I don't really have experience. What did you mean by efficient speaker?
Yeah so I wanna use 1x12 but doesn the Ohms matters? The amp has two outputs for 8 Ohms and one for 16 ohm. If I have the 8 ohm speaker plugged into 8 ohm output will it be se same loud as the 16 ohm speaker two 16 ohm output?
I have also have Marshal DSL40c in my list. Little bit heavier and more expensive but it has 40 watts.
P.S. Currently I am in Germany that is why I wanna buy an amp here.
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I didn't mean to say it's not good. Those Orange Terror series are pretty damn good, but I just meant to say they don't really sound like a the usual 5150 or Dual Rectifier tones in metal recordings. Not to say they don't sound mean and heavy, though.

I think you'd be happy with one, honestly. Don't worry about it being able to keep up with a drummer or not. It can. Just keep in mind the more you turn it up, the more ape**** it sounds, but, like someone here said, that's what those are voiced to sound like. :)

By "efficient speaker" I mean a speaker that sounds louder than another with the same settings on the amp. For example, if you run a Dark Terror with the volume at 12 o'clock, and you run it into an 8 ohm Celestion EVH signature speaker, it will be noticeably quieter than if you run it into an 8 ohm Vintage 30, assuming you're using the same 8 ohm output on the Dark Terror for both.
 
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I am not gonna carry the cab that often. Orange cabs are pretty expensive to me for now.
I really like the sound of dark terror. I tried Roots terror and I didn't like it. The guy in the store said that the 15 watt won't be able to compete with drummer. Now I am confused. Now I am looking for 1x12 cab that will sound loud enough not with an awesome tone (of course if it is loud as f**k but sounds like sh*t I am not buying)
So the cab schould be loud and tone - just fine.
But I am really confused. I read all the reviews some people say it won't compete with drummer other that it will.
(I am interested only in high gain)
Did anyone rehearsal with this amp? I just want to be sure.
 
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Dark Terror full band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGrLm8Hx7Aw

I've rehearsed with a band where the guitarist was using a 15W Fender Blues Junior combo alongside a LOUD drummer, bass, and keyboards. No problem being heard. None at all. I've brought my 20W Krank Rev Jr. through a 1x12 cab with a Greenback, and it cuts it too. You'll have no problem being heard, dude, just don't go overboard with the scoop knob, and you'll be fine.
 
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I have the OR15- with a decent 2x12 filled with G12H30 celestions it's seriously loud for 15watts. Like to the point it is messing with my hearing when I am not careful. Should keep up easy with a drummer.
 
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Does more speakers make you louder?
Because the amount of watt doesn't change. Doesn't the power just spread to more speakers changing the tone but not volume?
If I am going to get a 1x12 should I get 8 ohms or 10 ohms speaker? Does it matter?
 
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