Original 1952-1954 Fender Telecaster Serial #1424
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Edgecrusher
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Re: Original 1952-1954 Fender Telecaster Serial #1424
50 bucks...
If you are serious call up Gruhn's guitars... asking on any forum will only get you speculation.
50 bucks...
If you are serious call up Gruhn's guitars... asking on any forum will only get you speculation.
Kamanda~SD
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Re: Original 1952-1954 Fender Telecaster Serial #1424
^^ Agreed, something of this caliber go get it appraised properly by a reputable vintage guitar shop. Just do us all a favour and make sure it goes to a good home...call John 5?
^^ Agreed, something of this caliber go get it appraised properly by a reputable vintage guitar shop. Just do us all a favour and make sure it goes to a good home...call John 5?
treyhaislip
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Re: Original 1952-1954 Fender Telecaster Serial #1424
Sweet inheritance!
If you go with an auction expect to lose about 25%-30% in auction fees. I don't know Gruhn's guitars but I would suggest calling a couple of places
Sweet inheritance!
If you go with an auction expect to lose about 25%-30% in auction fees. I don't know Gruhn's guitars but I would suggest calling a couple of places
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Funkfingers
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Re: Original 1952-1954 Fender Telecaster Serial #1424
+1 for reputable professional dealer appraisal.
Your guitar exhibits several features that suggest it is earlier than 1952. (The only other explanation would be a re-finish.) The one fly in the ointment is those two dark spots on the headstock. Are they drilled holes?
Your father probably just helped to pay off your mortgage. :notworthy
+1 for reputable professional dealer appraisal.
Your guitar exhibits several features that suggest it is earlier than 1952. (The only other explanation would be a re-finish.) The one fly in the ointment is those two dark spots on the headstock. Are they drilled holes?
Your father probably just helped to pay off your mortgage. :notworthy
Rand-O-Monium
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Re: Original 1952-1954 Fender Telecaster Serial #1424
Wow...
They had one on Antiques Roadshow that was appraised @ about 30k,but I think he had an amp,too.
Gotta find that switch knob...
Wow...
They had one on Antiques Roadshow that was appraised @ about 30k,but I think he had an amp,too.
Gotta find that switch knob...
voggin
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Re: Original 1952-1954 Fender Telecaster Serial #1424
Holy crap.
What a legacy your father left you. Do you play? I don't know if I could part with something like that.
I agree with the professional appraisal. You should also insure it until you sell it or if you plan to keep it.
Holy crap.
What a legacy your father left you. Do you play? I don't know if I could part with something like that.
I agree with the professional appraisal. You should also insure it until you sell it or if you plan to keep it.
voggin
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Re: Original 1952-1954 Fender Telecaster Serial #1424
I'm with you, then. A beauty like that should be owned by someone who will appreciate it for what it is.
Sorry for your loss, by the way. I hope you get a very fair price.
I'm with you, then. A beauty like that should be owned by someone who will appreciate it for what it is.
Sorry for your loss, by the way. I hope you get a very fair price.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Original 1952-1954 Fender Telecaster Serial #1424
If it's an early 50's black guard, the average asking price from a dealer is around $30K, which means they'll try giving you far less or maybe putting it on consignment for 20%.
edit - I think that your guitar may be more valuable than I first thought. It appears to be a 1951 Nocaster. At first, I thought the Pat Pending number on the bridge wasn't the serial number, but it may very well be. Carefully unscrew the neck and see if there's any more dating info on the end of the neck or heel.
Your dad's story may well be true, but that seems to be a lot of wear that resembles relicing or years and years of pro useage. I agree about having a professional appraisal, but don't let them take it off your hands for less than $25K, if the serial number checks out and if the missing switch tip and two holes on the headstock didn't devalue it too much
If it's an early 50's black guard, the average asking price from a dealer is around $30K, which means they'll try giving you far less or maybe putting it on consignment for 20%.
edit - I think that your guitar may be more valuable than I first thought. It appears to be a 1951 Nocaster. At first, I thought the Pat Pending number on the bridge wasn't the serial number, but it may very well be. Carefully unscrew the neck and see if there's any more dating info on the end of the neck or heel.
Your dad's story may well be true, but that seems to be a lot of wear that resembles relicing or years and years of pro useage. I agree about having a professional appraisal, but don't let them take it off your hands for less than $25K, if the serial number checks out and if the missing switch tip and two holes on the headstock didn't devalue it too much
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Re: Original 1952-1954 Fender Telecaster Serial #1424
thats the serial number joe, fo sho
looking at the spacing of the 12 fret dots, id say 1952 but it could just be the picture. they changed the spacing around 1953 to be a little wider.
as was suggested, you can carefully remove the neck and there should be dates written on the neck by the truss rod
thats the serial number joe, fo sho
looking at the spacing of the 12 fret dots, id say 1952 but it could just be the picture. they changed the spacing around 1953 to be a little wider.
as was suggested, you can carefully remove the neck and there should be dates written on the neck by the truss rod
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Original 1952-1954 Fender Telecaster Serial #1424
I think it's a 51 Nocaster. They used a silver Fender Broadcaster logo with Broadcaster cut off. In 52, it would have been a Fender Telecaster logo in silver. Also, the tuners don't say Kluson Deluxe. The case looks authentic.
Someone will pay big bucks for this guitar.
I think it's a 51 Nocaster. They used a silver Fender Broadcaster logo with Broadcaster cut off. In 52, it would have been a Fender Telecaster logo in silver. Also, the tuners don't say Kluson Deluxe. The case looks authentic.
Someone will pay big bucks for this guitar.
Swampy
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Re: Original 1952-1954 Fender Telecaster Serial #1424
First, sorry for your loss.
So this thing hasnt seen hands since your dad's childhood? That means the strings could possibly be original too. I find that pretty darn interesting. Joe B would take this thing off your hands. Your dad was a pretty rough guitar player when he was young.....lol. But I love that. That is real relic on a real guitar.
Good luck with the sale. I'd be interested to hear what it goes for. And hopefully it goes to a player, not to sit in a glass box.
First, sorry for your loss.
So this thing hasnt seen hands since your dad's childhood? That means the strings could possibly be original too. I find that pretty darn interesting. Joe B would take this thing off your hands. Your dad was a pretty rough guitar player when he was young.....lol. But I love that. That is real relic on a real guitar.
Good luck with the sale. I'd be interested to hear what it goes for. And hopefully it goes to a player, not to sit in a glass box.
DrNewcenstein
He Did the Monster Mash
Re: Original 1952-1954 Fender Telecaster Serial #1424
Or Jeff Beck.
Needs a Floyd :lol:
What's on it? Looks like 12s, by the low E.
And based on the angle, it looks like the edges of the 12th fret dots are just under the strings (going by how much of the cutaway is visible, and the center dots in relation to the strings).
If they later widened them to split the 12th dots down the center, or 3/4, then it's as Jeremy said.
Or Jeff Beck.
Needs a Floyd :lol:
What's on it? Looks like 12s, by the low E.
And based on the angle, it looks like the edges of the 12th fret dots are just under the strings (going by how much of the cutaway is visible, and the center dots in relation to the strings).
If they later widened them to split the 12th dots down the center, or 3/4, then it's as Jeremy said.
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Ashurbanipal
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Re: Original 1952-1954 Fender Telecaster Serial #1424
I'm inclined to think it's a 1951 Nocaster. Another way of distinguishing them is the use of slot head screws for everything, which is what your guitar seems to have. Beginning in 1952, Fender started transitioning to philips head, which was done by 1953, so you see Teles from this period having a mixture.
I'm inclined to think it's a 1951 Nocaster. Another way of distinguishing them is the use of slot head screws for everything, which is what your guitar seems to have. Beginning in 1952, Fender started transitioning to philips head, which was done by 1953, so you see Teles from this period having a mixture.
ItsaBass
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Original 1952-1954 Fender Telecaster Serial #1424
If it's legit, it's definitely a '51. Obvious from the specs anyhow, but the serial number says for sure.
A '51 Nocaster is one of the holy grails of Fender guitars. It's worth a lot of money. Not house money, like an old Les Paul, but definitely really nice car money. It's worth about twice what a blackguard Telecaster is worth, due to it's relative rarity, desirability, and historical significance. The only possibility-more-desirable standard production Fender from that period would be a Broadcaster (same guitar as yours, but before Fender got a cease and desist notice for their use of that model name).
I'm sorry for your loss. Now sell that puppy, and do what yer pops would want you to do with the money, without thinking twice about it.
If it's legit, it's definitely a '51. Obvious from the specs anyhow, but the serial number says for sure.
A '51 Nocaster is one of the holy grails of Fender guitars. It's worth a lot of money. Not house money, like an old Les Paul, but definitely really nice car money. It's worth about twice what a blackguard Telecaster is worth, due to it's relative rarity, desirability, and historical significance. The only possibility-more-desirable standard production Fender from that period would be a Broadcaster (same guitar as yours, but before Fender got a cease and desist notice for their use of that model name).
I'm sorry for your loss. Now sell that puppy, and do what yer pops would want you to do with the money, without thinking twice about it.
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Gearjoneser
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Re: Original 1952-1954 Fender Telecaster Serial #1424
I'll bet George Gruhn was on top of this guitar since he saw the pics.
I'll bet George Gruhn was on top of this guitar since he saw the pics.
