other bridge pickup for Epi SG? help needed
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Franknfilms
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Re: other bridge pickup for Epi SG? help needed
That's an interesting idea, I have the triple shots so I'll be sure to test it out when I put in the A8.
That's an interesting idea, I have the triple shots so I'll be sure to test it out when I put in the A8.
taxi
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Re: other bridge pickup for Epi SG? help needed
So you did series/parallel on the C8? Parallel for scoop and series for fat? Sounds like a great mod, hamerfan! I bet that would be a cool mod for both pickups if you want to alternate between meaty and sparkly at the neck also.
I'll refrain from food references today... but a slice of pizza sounds really good right now.
So you did series/parallel on the C8? Parallel for scoop and series for fat? Sounds like a great mod, hamerfan! I bet that would be a cool mod for both pickups if you want to alternate between meaty and sparkly at the neck also.
I'll refrain from food references today... but a slice of pizza sounds really good right now.
Kam
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ec101dm
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Re: other bridge pickup for Epi SG? help needed
ahahah!!
here I am back to give my thoughts on the C8. I've had it in my guitar for a week now, so I hope this trial period will suffice to make a somewhat honest judgement. (reminder: I originally had a JB in my SG)
So here's my conclusions:
- the C8 sounds much warmer than the JB. smoothed out highs, nice lo-mids and added bottom. it's not as bright as I would have liked, but the EQ on my amps can partially make up for that.
- it's very powerful!! I had to lower the pup considerably so the sound wouldn't be "too much". a good companion for a thin-body guitar such as an SG.
- although it lacks the immediate aggression and gnarl of the JB, the C8 works very well with hi-gain. the lower end never gets mushy even if you turn up gain to 11. and chords stay well-defined.
- I'd say this is an allrounder. it suits most common playing styles very well imo, whether you're a metalhead, a bluesman or a classic rock lover.
- I like mids, in fact I like mids A LOT, but with this pickup I have to turn down the mids on my amp, otherwise they can be overpowering.
- cleans are nice, definitely a huge improvement over the JB. the middle position on my SG sounds so much clearer and better than before.
- like some other have described, the attack is different than with most other pups. notes "bloom" indeed, giving it a little bit of vintage vibe. a very musical sound.
Conclusion:
I like it, I like its organic sound but to me it's not the endpoint of my tone quest yet. I could do with a bit more "spank" and a bit less "warmth", so I'm giving the C5 a try as well. Also: as I really like the tone character of my JB, I'm gonna try it again with a 250K pot, to tame its shrill highs.
ahahah!!
here I am back to give my thoughts on the C8. I've had it in my guitar for a week now, so I hope this trial period will suffice to make a somewhat honest judgement. (reminder: I originally had a JB in my SG)
So here's my conclusions:
- the C8 sounds much warmer than the JB. smoothed out highs, nice lo-mids and added bottom. it's not as bright as I would have liked, but the EQ on my amps can partially make up for that.
- it's very powerful!! I had to lower the pup considerably so the sound wouldn't be "too much". a good companion for a thin-body guitar such as an SG.
- although it lacks the immediate aggression and gnarl of the JB, the C8 works very well with hi-gain. the lower end never gets mushy even if you turn up gain to 11. and chords stay well-defined.
- I'd say this is an allrounder. it suits most common playing styles very well imo, whether you're a metalhead, a bluesman or a classic rock lover.
- I like mids, in fact I like mids A LOT, but with this pickup I have to turn down the mids on my amp, otherwise they can be overpowering.
- cleans are nice, definitely a huge improvement over the JB. the middle position on my SG sounds so much clearer and better than before.
- like some other have described, the attack is different than with most other pups. notes "bloom" indeed, giving it a little bit of vintage vibe. a very musical sound.
Conclusion:
I like it, I like its organic sound but to me it's not the endpoint of my tone quest yet. I could do with a bit more "spank" and a bit less "warmth", so I'm giving the C5 a try as well. Also: as I really like the tone character of my JB, I'm gonna try it again with a 250K pot, to tame its shrill highs.
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LtKojak
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Re: other bridge pickup for Epi SG? help needed
To change the pot to a 250K it's the first thing to do when confronted with the dreaded JB spike. If it still is too shrill, then phase two is to change the magnet to a A8 or A2, depending on how hard you wanna hit the first stage of your preamp.
Well, you've got my personal favorite, the Custom 8; if you don't like this one something must be wrong with your rig and/or your ears! :joke:
To change the pot to a 250K it's the first thing to do when confronted with the dreaded JB spike. If it still is too shrill, then phase two is to change the magnet to a A8 or A2, depending on how hard you wanna hit the first stage of your preamp.
Well, you've got my personal favorite, the Custom 8; if you don't like this one something must be wrong with your rig and/or your ears! :joke:
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Re: other bridge pickup for Epi SG? help needed
+10. The C8 is by far and away the best bridge PU for an Epi SG. I think you'll find that the C5 will be a little mid-scooped for your taste. Definitely worth thinking about since you said that you love mids. Make sure you are using 500k pots to allow the highs to come through.
Depending on just how low you have adjusted your PU, you may want to raise the filister screws a bit. Also, try adjusting the treble side of the PU higher (closer to the strings) and the bass side of the PU lower into the body cavity. Then adjust the filister screws to be about 1/8" from the strings (the bass side screws will end up being much taller). This will brighten the tone a bit and add some clarity, giving an apparent increase in the highs. This will allow you to keep the entire PU a bit closer to the strings so you can utilize the full potential of that PU.
Try some PU adjusting and some amp EQ adjusting and I think you'll find that the C8 is the finest PU available for your SG.
Happy playing.
+10. The C8 is by far and away the best bridge PU for an Epi SG. I think you'll find that the C5 will be a little mid-scooped for your taste. Definitely worth thinking about since you said that you love mids. Make sure you are using 500k pots to allow the highs to come through.
Depending on just how low you have adjusted your PU, you may want to raise the filister screws a bit. Also, try adjusting the treble side of the PU higher (closer to the strings) and the bass side of the PU lower into the body cavity. Then adjust the filister screws to be about 1/8" from the strings (the bass side screws will end up being much taller). This will brighten the tone a bit and add some clarity, giving an apparent increase in the highs. This will allow you to keep the entire PU a bit closer to the strings so you can utilize the full potential of that PU.
Try some PU adjusting and some amp EQ adjusting and I think you'll find that the C8 is the finest PU available for your SG.
Happy playing.
ec101dm
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Re: other bridge pickup for Epi SG? help needed
hey guys, you could be right. maybe there is something wrong with my ears ;-)
no seriously now. I've done nothing but playing my SG during this whole day to give it another try. And just like GuitarDoc suggested, I have played with the amp's EQ and the pup height.
And it has been rewarding. Apparently my programmable Rocktron Pro GAP preamp needed some drastic changes to the EQ settings of all patches to make this work.
I've lowered the bass on every single patch, lowered some mids too where needed, and maximized highs throughout. And that works wonderfully.
Now I have the sound back that I loved with my JB, but WITHOUT the icepick shrillness!!
Important too: I've done this on a decent volume!!
SO: maybe I judged to quickly. THis pup sounds great.
hey guys, you could be right. maybe there is something wrong with my ears ;-)
no seriously now. I've done nothing but playing my SG during this whole day to give it another try. And just like GuitarDoc suggested, I have played with the amp's EQ and the pup height.
And it has been rewarding. Apparently my programmable Rocktron Pro GAP preamp needed some drastic changes to the EQ settings of all patches to make this work.
I've lowered the bass on every single patch, lowered some mids too where needed, and maximized highs throughout. And that works wonderfully.
Now I have the sound back that I loved with my JB, but WITHOUT the icepick shrillness!!
Important too: I've done this on a decent volume!!
SO: maybe I judged to quickly. THis pup sounds great.
blueman335
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Re: other bridge pickup for Epi SG? help needed
The C8 is a great PU. It really needs to be a standard production model. It fills an EQ hole in the Custom line. When a CC is too rounded & loose, a C5 is too scooped, and you don't want to deal with a ceramic, a C8 is perfect.
The C8 is a great PU. It really needs to be a standard production model. It fills an EQ hole in the Custom line. When a CC is too rounded & loose, a C5 is too scooped, and you don't want to deal with a ceramic, a C8 is perfect.
ec101dm
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Re: other bridge pickup for Epi SG? help needed
hi there again!
Don't shoot me: I have given the C5 a try as well... :nana:
a friend of mine had one lying around and he didn't mind me trying it in my SG :thanks:
. . .
to put things short: seems this is the pickup I was looking for!!!!!
I like this one even better than the C8. Despite its slightly scooped mids!
I find it to be much tighter for metal riffing (the "chugga chugga" sound like someone else called it) and it still has the clear highs I need in my sound.
The slight loss of mids on the p'up can be perfectly compensated on my amp.
I also like its clean sound a lot. It doesn't distort as easy as the JB, as it has less gain.
Sounds fantastic for classic rock (AC/DC and stuff) as well.
It definitely HAS the things I've already liked with C8, but it's less warm (in a good way).
I think it sounds VERY Paf-ish, as far as I've heard PAF's before. Does that make sense?
To my ears this pickup sounds like it was designed for use in SG's!
I'm happy with it!
hi there again!
Don't shoot me: I have given the C5 a try as well... :nana:
a friend of mine had one lying around and he didn't mind me trying it in my SG :thanks:
. . .
to put things short: seems this is the pickup I was looking for!!!!!
I like this one even better than the C8. Despite its slightly scooped mids!
I find it to be much tighter for metal riffing (the "chugga chugga" sound like someone else called it) and it still has the clear highs I need in my sound.
The slight loss of mids on the p'up can be perfectly compensated on my amp.
I also like its clean sound a lot. It doesn't distort as easy as the JB, as it has less gain.
Sounds fantastic for classic rock (AC/DC and stuff) as well.
It definitely HAS the things I've already liked with C8, but it's less warm (in a good way).
I think it sounds VERY Paf-ish, as far as I've heard PAF's before. Does that make sense?
To my ears this pickup sounds like it was designed for use in SG's!
I'm happy with it!
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Gearjoneser
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Re: other bridge pickup for Epi SG? help needed
Custom 5. With a PG or Jazz neck. I read the C8 suggestions, and feel like it's going straight to a 10 cylinder before even trying a V8.
Custom 5. With a PG or Jazz neck. I read the C8 suggestions, and feel like it's going straight to a 10 cylinder before even trying a V8.
J
Jessie's ghost
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Re: other bridge pickup for Epi SG? help needed
It's a Custom, Custom 5, or Custom Custom with the stock magnet swapped out for an Alnico 8. It's a wildcat.
It's a Custom, Custom 5, or Custom Custom with the stock magnet swapped out for an Alnico 8. It's a wildcat.
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