Owners Of The Vox 847 Wah...

STRATDELUXER97

STRATDELUXER97

Stratoblaster Tone Meister
I've spent alot of time on my own 847 after returning a Teese Picture Wah that I payed $245 for...I must tell you all with utmost honesty,that I have found away to really get this pedal dialed in great...I've got maximum quack and range out of mine...

If you'd like your's modded,plan on first getting both the Fulltone inductor and his pot....After that,I've found the right combination of cap values and resistor changes to really get your 847 sounding great...I'm using Jimi Hendrix's clean wah tone he gets in "Up From The Skies" off Axis as my guide..I've really got that whole vibe nailed in now..The mods are pricey on wahs because the inductor,pot,and dpdt true bypass switches are pricey,but if you want your wah to sound like an early Vox,you'll have to spend the cash to get it....

John
 
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Curly said:
I'm thinkin' about it :)
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I Picked up some polystyrene caps from Mouser that really made a difference in the frequency range and mids on the wah and tweaked the other .01 cap value...I've also dialed in other resistors to get more gain,unity gain of the pedal on or off...The fulltone pot and inductor give me that extra range we all miss in today's wahs...I've really got my wah dialed in perfect for exactly what I want to hear from my wah...The Teese wah is great also but I like my wah better,simply because I sat there and tryed many different combinations until I really got it dialed in...

Didn't cost me $245 either.....The mods are that good..

John
 
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John, I'd rather have my early 70's Crybabys modded to those specs. Can you do it? If so I'll send you two...just like I sent you my two TS-9's. There's a real hollow light airy quality to the original Wah Wah sound that Hendrix used, and Up From The Sky is a perfect example.

That lighter breathier wah wah sound is all over the Axis Bold As Love album.

If you can get that tone, I'll send you my two old Crybaby's because I never use them...especially since getting the 847 and the Fulltone Clyde Deluxe.

What do you think? Do you want cash...or pickups? Maybe an Antiquity I Texas Hot Bridge pickup and whatever cash balance you need?

Lew
 
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John,
do you think the Fulltone inductor is better than the Dunlop/ Fasel?

or, have you tried the Fasel?

anyway, I got an 847 a few years ago used, in good condition (with the bag), but never use it, so it's a good candidate for a mod ...
 
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Curly said:
John,
do you think the Fulltone inductor is better than the Dunlop/ Fasel?

or, have you tried the Fasel?

anyway, I got an 847 a few years ago used, in good condition (with the bag), but never use it, so it's a good candidate for a mod ...
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Curly...I haven't tryed the reissue fasel but the Fulltone stuff is excellent...Mike's is a copy of the Clyde McCoy "Halo" inductor....His pots are great also...Don't even think about the mods without these 2 components...
 
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Lewguitar said:
John, I'd rather have my early 70's Crybabys modded to those specs. Can you do it? If so I'll send you two...just like I sent you my two TS-9's. There's a real hollow light airy quality to the original Wah Wah sound that Hendrix used, and Up From The Sky is a perfect example.

That lighter breathier wah wah sound is all over the Axis Bold As Love album.

If you can get that tone, I'll send you my two old Crybaby's because I never use them...especially since getting the 847 and the Fulltone Clyde Deluxe.

What do you think? Do you want cash...or pickups? Maybe an Antiquity I Texas Hot Bridge pickup and whatever cash balance you need?

Lew
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Lew....I've used that Hendrix tune specifically to voice my 847 wah...I'm so very close through my Marshall and with my strat buddy..Just scary!

Lew....Let's do this....Just send me the cash we need to do both pedals with inductors and pots(If needed)? Do your pedals have the "Halo" TDK 5103 or the Fasel? Any ideas?

After the inductor and pot,then we can work the magic into your wahs.....The inductor and pots will run you $50 for the both....If you want true bypass,figure another $15 for the DPDT switch(Unless you have some switches).....Figure for 2 switches,2 inductors,and 2 pots(Depending on the inductors in your wahs now)

Are you ok using just batteries? A power supply requires a board,jack,and wiring it into the circuit...

let me mod the wahs and we'll work out something afterwards...I'm not sure what I'd want right now? LOL

John
 
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Hmmm.

I'm still looking at a Teese RMC3 (they're cheaper than a Fulltone Clyde here) simply for all the dip switches and trim pots. Your idea is interesting, but I run active humbuckers, so I need something that I can f*ck with until I get the sound I want.

If Lew's Dunlop works out though, I might ask you to upgrade and retune mine for use with single coils though....
 
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screamingdaisy said:
Hmmm.

I'm still looking at a Teese RMC3 (they're cheaper than a Fulltone Clyde here) simply for all the dip switches and trim pots. Your idea is interesting, but I run active humbuckers, so I need something that I can f*ck with until I get the sound I want.

If Lew's Dunlop works out though, I might ask you to upgrade and retune mine for use with single coils though....
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Mine aren't Dunlaps...they're real 70's Vox Crybaby's that came out after the Italian made Wah Wah's Clapton and Hendrix used. The Crybabys lost that original tone too...not nearly as clear and breathy as the original Vox Clyde Wah Wah I owned and tossed in the garbage can 30 years ago when it wore out and couldn't be repaired at the time. We were all pretty ignorant about that stuff in 1970!

I thought the recent RI Vox Chrome Top 847 Wah Wah got alot closer to that original tone, but it's still not as breathy as the Italian made originals you hear on Clapton's Tales of Brave Ullysses and Hendrix's Up From the Sky.

I've never heard the Tesse, but the Fulltone Clyde Deluxe is my favorite new Wah for getting that Hendrix tone.

If John is using the Fulltone parts (plus his own magic ears, which seem to be on a par with my own since we usually agree on just about everything when it comes to tone! :wink: ) I'm pretty sure I'll like his Wah Wah mods.

I'm going to pack them up and get them in the mail this week...

Lew
 
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Lewguitar said:
Mine aren't Dunlaps...they're real Vox Crybaby's that came out after the Italian made Wah Wah's Clapton and Hendrix used. They lost that tone too!

I thought the recent RI Vox Chrome Top 847 Wah Wah got alot closer to that original tone, but it's still not as breathy as the Italian made originals you hear on Clapton's Tails of Brave Ullysses and Hendrix Up From the Sky.

I've never heard the Tesse, but the Fulltone Clyde Deluxe is the my favorite new Wah for getting that Hendrix tone.

If John is using the Fulltone parts (plus his own magic ears, which seem to be on a par with my own since we usually agree on just about everything when it comes to tone! :wink: ) I'm pretty sure I'll like his Wah Wah mods.

I'm going to pack them up and get them in the mail this week...

Lew
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I strive for a combination of a bit more lows in the wah tone,but also to get the most vowel range on the pot...There's a very fine line between more lows though,because as you increase the lows,you lose the quacky vowel character of the wah...I'm very happy with my current wah and BluDave's early original CryBaby turned out very close to my 847 but we used his stock TDK 5103 inductor,but replaced with a fulltone wah pot...I've really spend alot of time lately reading all about the different parts of what makes a wah sound great...I then sent away for some BC109B transistors,different style and makeup of caps and different values of caps...After that,I then messed with dinking resistor values up and down in an effort to get more volume,more mids,and a bit more gain,and unity gain between the pedal on and pedal off volumes...My wah has true bypass and I highy recommend that so you get away from the loading of the wah circuit...I wouldn't stick my neck out on the forums unless I was very happy with my end results..Wish I could post some clips,but I don't currently have a computer based recording software.....

John
 
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Has anyone heard the Vox 848 wah to comment on how it fits into all of this?
It appears to use true-bypass switching and the classic inductor at a decent price.
 
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hmmm, i have a vox wah my dad gave me that's old, its input is on the right and i think this makes it a reissue. I find that it sometimes skips out some frequencies when i sweep it and it loses alot of volume. Im running strat>wah>Ts9>peavey classic 50. Should the wah come before or after in the cycle?
 
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Kelsey said:
Has anyone heard the Vox 848 wah to comment on how it fits into all of this?
It appears to use true-bypass switching and the classic inductor at a decent price.
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I bought my Vox 847 new in 93 when it was reissued...Sounded alot better than the Dunlop CryBaby of that era...If you buy an 847 and put the "correct" inductor and a good pot in there,you go from good to much better on the wah...If you tweak the board after buying the pot and inductor,you now are right there with the best sounding Vox clyde and 846,CryBaby,wah tones of the late 60s....

The 847 is a pretty decent wah stock,but it lacks the range and vowel like throaty tones of the originals...It's not a good copy...It looks like an early Vox but it sure doesn't act or sound anything like one...

John
 
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Lewguitar said:
Mine aren't Dunlaps...they're real 70's Vox Crybaby's that came out after the Italian made Wah Wah's Clapton and Hendrix used.
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Ah. My mistake.

Either way, between the Fulltone pot and inductor, and John's mods, the only thing original will likely be the pedal housing, the PCB, and the in/out jacks....
 
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i'm interested, but how much better can this make the wah sound? what if you only got the pot and not the inductor? what does the inductor do?
 
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