P bass scarcity

[Progbusters]

In GC Bay Area. I been to SF , emeryville and concord. Nobody has enough squire and fender p basses. They have like one really expensive one that looks like it's reserved for the grateful dead, a $500-600 Mexico fender which is fine but no squier. PJ basses don't count. They don't sound like p basses. Blah. Lol

 

[Progbusters]

Re: P bass scarcity

Why so many j basses btw?

 

[Snake Aces]

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PJ basses don't sound like P basses? Since when? Just blend or turn the volume pot of the bridge pickup down and you've got a P-bass. I played one of two PJ basses for many years from 2000 to 2009 and before that I played P basses. They definitely sound the same when you turn the J pickup down/off.

 

[Progbusters]

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sounds kinda metallic and has a high mids. oh well, i will try again. thanks

 

[BlueTalon]

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Why so many j basses btw?

Because they're better.


:firing:

 

[blueman335]

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There's a lot of variety in Jazz basses, one reason why they're so popular. I have a Fender Blacktop Jazz with two split coil PU's, and a Fender Modern Player Jazz with two big HB's. They're heavy-sounding basses. Used, both of those would be in the price range of a new Squire.

 

[ItsaBass]

P bass scarcity

PJ basses don't count. They don't sound like p basses.

Neither do Squier P Basses.

 

[Funkfingers]

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PJ basses don't sound like P basses? Since when? Just blend or turn the volume pot of the bridge pickup down and you've got a P-bass. I played one of two PJ basses for many years from 2000 to 2009 and before that I played P basses. They definitely sound the same when you turn the J pickup down/off.

There is an argument that suggests that the magnetic field of the LJ pickup can affect string excursion, thereby altering the sound, albeit in a way that is not vastly noticeable.

Similarly, the fact that the pickups are connected to the volume pots differently on P and J Bass guitars may change the loading effects of the controls on the pickups.

 

[ginormous]

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If you absolutely MUST have an actual US Fender Precision, I can understand there might be a shortage of them in one small area.
Statistical anomalies create changes in the supply from time to time.

However, if you need something that sounds like a P, there's lots of alternatives to choose from, or you can make one yourself from parts.
Have you thought about this, or do you have your heart set on getting the real deal?

 

[DrNewcenstein]

Re: P bass scarcity

There is an argument that suggests that the magnetic field of the LJ pickup can affect string excursion, thereby altering the sound, albeit in a way that is not wastly noticeable.

Similarly, the fact that the pickups are connected to the volume pots differently on P and J Bass guitars may change the loading effects of the controls on the pickups.

Hogwash.

 

[Snake Aces]

Re: P bass scarcity

There is an argument that suggests that the magnetic field of the LJ pickup can affect string excursion, thereby altering the sound, albeit in a way that is not wastly noticeable.

Similarly, the fact that the pickups are connected to the volume pots differently on P and J Bass guitars may change the loading effects of the controls on the pickups.

I don't know, maybe, but to my ears over the years of playing P basses and PJ basses I never noticed a difference. 1 Squier P, 1 Fender Deluxe PJ, 1 Fender American Standard P and 1 Warmoth PJ. The biggest difference was the Warmoth as it had a chambered swamp ash body with a bubinga neck. There was a difference there: bigger lows, more responsiveness and killer sustain. However, the P pickup still sounded very P bass like when I rolled off the J.

 

[DrNewcenstein]

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If such a thing had any truth to it, then a simple toggle switch, routing the P and J to the controls separately, would be an easy fix, and the argument would be resolved and the discussion closed.

It's the preconceived notion that Leo did not intend a P and J to be on the same body, it's not how it was done in the 50s, Jaco got by without a P, Jailhouse Rock wouldn't sound the same with a J, and all the usual Puritan bile.

 

[Funkfingers]

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Hogwash.

You know best.



EDIT - Where's DreX when you need him?

 

[BlueTalon]

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I think when it comes to different flavors of P, some people hear a difference because they think they are going to hear a difference. I bet if you blindfolded people and had them listen to four or five different P basses, they might be able to hear a slight difference between them, but they would not be able to tell which bass was which without looking.

 

[DrNewcenstein]

Re: P bass scarcity

You know best.



EDIT - Where's DreX when you need him?

He got a timeout.


As for the hogwash, there's this myth floating around that a pickup's magnetic field extends infinitely into infinity *at the same power level from 0 to infinity*, and thus the bridge pickup and neck pickup are constantly fighting with each other. Ergo, the assumption is that any two or more pickups in a guitar are doing this, because it's what pickups do, including a bridge-position J and a middle-position P.

It is not happening. There is no loss of tone from the body by having the extra wood removed to fit the J, either.

 

[blueman335]

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If you absolutely MUST have an actual US Fender Precision...

Except that he doesn't want an actual US Fender Precision. He wants a imported Squire. Other than that, you got it right.

 

[Progbusters]

Re: P bass scarcity

I will probably get a Mexican fender. What are the other brands that sound like a P?

 

[Snake Aces]

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Warmoth for sure, especially considering they are a licensed Fender manufacturer

 

[Kamanda~SD]

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Going to agree with no tonal changes having a PJ with the J pickup off vs a P bass. Pulled the actives out of a PJ of mine and could only afford a P pickup at first....0 difference between having the J out of there and having one in with it turned off.

 

[El Supremo]

Re: P bass scarcity

There is an argument that suggests that the magnetic field of the LJ pickup can affect string excursion, thereby altering the sound, albeit in a way that is not wastly noticeable.

Similarly, the fact that the pickups are connected to the volume pots differently on P and J Bass guitars may change the loading effects of the controls on the pickups.

Also, taking into consideration the actual placement of the J pickup, makes it hard to believe it'll have any audible effect as far as string pull goes.

The Fender Standard MIM line is pretty solid. I've got a Jazz V that's never let me down. Stable neck and tuning despite lots of travelling and temperature differences.