The basic wiring information for the P-Rail shows the neck pickup with the P90 portion closest to the neck and the bridge pickup with the P90 portion closest to the bridge. I've got an HSH guitar and would frankly like it set up just the reverse, with the single coil rail pickups farthest apart. Aside from the "Seymour Duncan" logos being upside down in each case, are there any other problems with doing that?
P-Rail orientation
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Sporky McGuffin
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Re: P-Rail orientation
But with them on the outside you might get more of a Tele-ish sound.
But with them on the outside you might get more of a Tele-ish sound.
frankfalbo
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Re: P-Rail orientation
Yes much thought was given to this, and the Rails to the inside is the most likely orientation (likely 90%) and that is what the logos suggest. I'm pretty sure (but not positive) that you can order "reverse logo" versions as Shop Floor Customs if necessary. Our standard orientation yields the best "quack" from the Rails in an H/H guitar, and it pushes the P90's up against the fretboard and bridge, where they would be if the guitar were routed for P90's.
The P90's are nearly centered. That means if you flip the P-Rails, the P90 tone changes only slightly. But the Rails tone changes dramatically, and therefore the Humbucker tone changes too. On an H/S/H guitar I still like the Rails on the inside. They're close to the middle single, but they get a really great Strat quack when used with a middle single coil. I've got an H/S/S guitar with a P-Rails and I have it oriented the normal way. I also like the Bridge P90 combined with the middle single coil to simulate a "hot strat bridge/vintage middle combo.
Definitely don't be afraid to flip them around. I'll probably have one guitar H/S/H guitar loaded with flipped P-Rails.
Now, a Tele with a neck humbucker is a GREAT place to flip the P-Rails. The Rail coil will be up against the fretboard like a Tele neck pickup.
Yes much thought was given to this, and the Rails to the inside is the most likely orientation (likely 90%) and that is what the logos suggest. I'm pretty sure (but not positive) that you can order "reverse logo" versions as Shop Floor Customs if necessary. Our standard orientation yields the best "quack" from the Rails in an H/H guitar, and it pushes the P90's up against the fretboard and bridge, where they would be if the guitar were routed for P90's.
The P90's are nearly centered. That means if you flip the P-Rails, the P90 tone changes only slightly. But the Rails tone changes dramatically, and therefore the Humbucker tone changes too. On an H/S/H guitar I still like the Rails on the inside. They're close to the middle single, but they get a really great Strat quack when used with a middle single coil. I've got an H/S/S guitar with a P-Rails and I have it oriented the normal way. I also like the Bridge P90 combined with the middle single coil to simulate a "hot strat bridge/vintage middle combo.
Definitely don't be afraid to flip them around. I'll probably have one guitar H/S/H guitar loaded with flipped P-Rails.
Now, a Tele with a neck humbucker is a GREAT place to flip the P-Rails. The Rail coil will be up against the fretboard like a Tele neck pickup.
Sporky McGuffin
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Re: P-Rail orientation
Can they be had without a logo at all?
Can they be had without a logo at all?
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How close does it sound to the tele? From what I've read here it seems like there is some comparaison to be made. I've actually been thinking of that, a tele with a p-rails in the neck...
How close does it sound to the tele? From what I've read here it seems like there is some comparaison to be made. I've actually been thinking of that, a tele with a p-rails in the neck...
John Wymore
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Re: P-Rail orientation
Logo's are easily removed with a little Brasso ...
Logo's are easily removed with a little Brasso ...
Sporky McGuffin
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Ah - I didn't know that. Ace.
Ah - I didn't know that. Ace.
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ZzZzZzZ Any ideas?
ZzZzZzZ Any ideas?
frankfalbo
In Fluence Y'all
Re: P-Rail orientation
At this point I believe they can be ordered Shop Floor Custom without logo, or with reversed logo. But don't quote me on this yet.
At this point I believe they can be ordered Shop Floor Custom without logo, or with reversed logo. But don't quote me on this yet.
Diocletian
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Re: P-Rail orientation
Dammit all to hell, where's the GOLD P-Rails!???
Dammit all to hell, where's the GOLD P-Rails!???