P-Rails in the neck, humbucker in the bridge, how would you wire it?

[Morson182]

So basically I'm looking to wire a P-Rail in the neck, on a 3 way switch, with p90/humbucker/single coil configuration, wired to a standard volume pot

In the bridge I want a SH-8 invader, wired to a coil tap volume pot

I then want another 3 way switch, used solely as a standard 3 way toggle switch (rhythm/both/treble)

All wired to one tone pot.

So you end up with the following

P-Rail > 3 way switch > volume pot >
3 way switch > Tone > Jack Plug
Invader > coil tap volume pot >

How would I go about wiring this up?
What pots/capacitors would you recommend?
What switches would you recommend?
Is there a wiring diagram anywhere in the world available for this set up (yet to even come close to one!!)

Please help as I really wanna make this happen ASAP!!

Thanks

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: P-Rails in the neck, humbucker in the bridge, how would you wire it?

I'm sorry no one has answered you yet.
Welcome to the forum. I'll see if I can give you some helpful advice.

It sounds like you want to use a 3-way switch for the P-Rail to switch from P-90/both coils/Rail coil. It certainly can do that, but in the middle position (humbucker mode/both coils) the P-90 and the Rail coil will be in parallel not the typical series humbucker mode. I don't think that's what you're after, although the parallel mode is a great tone. I would suggest mounting the P-Rail in a Triple Shot mounting ring. That way you can switch to all 4 modes (series/parallel/P-90/Rail) and enjoy everything the P-Rail has to offer. The lead from the Triple Shot would go to the neck volume pot, then to the 3-way pickup selector switch, then to the master tone pot, then to the output jack.

For the bridge, I would recommend the switch be used to go to parallel rather than split. The Invader is a very heavy sounding and high output pup and while it sounds ok split, I think it sounds MUCH better parallel. And, in my opinion, it sounds really great parallel. In the guitar that I've got an Invader mounted in the bridge I find that it is almost always left in parallel and rarely goes to split or series.

If you decide to give the parallel option for the Invader a try, follow this diagram...https://docs.google.com/gview?embed...p-content/uploads/2016/05/1H_1VppSP.pdf...but instead of going to the output jack, take that lead to the 3-way selector switch.

For the neck P-Rail/Triple Shot option, use this diagram...https://docs.google.com/gview?embed...p-content/uploads/2016/05/1H_1TS_1V.pdf...and, again, instead of going to the output jack, take the lead to the other side of the 3-way selector switch.

From the selector switch, go to the tone pot and the output jack as in this diagram...https://docs.google.com/gview?embed...om/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/2H_3G_2V_1T.pdf

Hope that helps.

 

[dystrust]

Re: P-Rails in the neck, humbucker in the bridge, how would you wire it?

I missed this too. Not to troll, but why not use two P-Rails? The bridge model in series sounds HUGE. Maybe not quite like an Invader, but I find it very similar to a Gibson Iommi 'bucker which isn't a small sounding pickup by any measure. If you use Triple Shot rings as well, you won't have to drill your guitar for an extra mini toggle and you end up with a pretty cool bonus sound (parallel). I don't understand why that option isn't promoted as it offers a really cool bright PAF sound; I'd liken it to an Alnico V Pearly Gates.

I have two P-Rails w/ Triple Shots in my SG and I find that I use parallel mode more than either of the split options; especially on the neck pickup. A neck P-Rails in series is ~13K which can be a bit too fat and loud through many amps. I only really use that sound when I need a boost for a lead.