P-Rails on 335 with one Vol pot

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beezerboy

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I've looked around at some of the posts here but don't see exactly what I am curious about. What I want to do is put P-Rails on a 335 replica (Hamer) but with only 1 Volume and Tone pot. My original plan was to just replace one set of pots with 3 position switches, but since I found out about the Triple Shot mount, that throws another question in the mix. the Triple Shot would give me series and parallel on the Buckers.... is the parallel setting worth the extra effort?

Also, if I use the Triple Shots that would leave 2 empty/available holes for something..... any thoughts.

fwiw, I have a Godin solid body that came with P-Rails and a 3 position switch on each pickup. I like it.
 
Re: P-Rails on 335 with one Vol pot

The triple shots are worth it. I would just wire it stock with Triple Shots and the standard volume/tone setup so you can blend things. I would also recommend 500k pots if they aren't already.
 
P-Rails on 335 with one Vol pot

frankfalbo said:
The triple shots are worth it. I would just wire it stock with Triple Shots and the standard volume/tone setup so you can blend things. I would also recommend 500k pots if they aren't already.
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Yup, I'm with Frank. My Gibson ES335 has P-Rails and Triple Shots with standard wiring schematic - incredibly flexible guitar.

To your specific question on the parallel setting, to my ears, it's actually better than the series humbucking setting - feels/sounds like a low wind PAF.


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Re: P-Rails on 335 with one Vol pot

I want to get Triples with a Dot Studio. I'm thinking concentric pots with triple shots.
 
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beezerboy said:
... but I hate two vol & tone pots for live work.
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OK, then. Not going to try to persuade you to change that.

Triple Shots give you 4-way switching for each pickup, so your proposed solution of 3-ways is going to dump one sound option. Of the 4 available tones - P90, rail, parallel, series - the ones I would definitely keep are P90 and parallel. Rail vs. series would depend on type of music you play (for me, the rail on its own doesn't fit).

Of course, another option is to use Triple Shots, wire up whichever of the pots you want as master volume/tone and then leave the other ones disconnected - just because your guitar has holes, doesn't mean they have to do something! :)


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Re: P-Rails on 335 with one Vol pot

ya.... thought about all those things.... its just if you have holes, you could make them do something useful. and I agree, the rails by themselves aren't as nice as the bucker & p90 sounds, but make an interesting mix with the p90.

thanks, still thinkin'....

its all good....
 
Re: P-Rails on 335 with one Vol pot

How about getting a blend pot to put in the place of the second volume control and just leaving two tones? That would open up your tonal options significantly. Bourns makes a nice blend pot that doesn't drop the volume when it's centered.

Of if you don't want the second tone, you could wire a rotary switch in the second tone spot to give you a varitone using different caps.
 
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lets see.... one tone, one volume, P-Rails with the (2) 3 way switches set to give me parallel coils, single coil, or P90.

maybe.... replace the toggle switch with a blend pot? 250 or 500k?
 
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beezerboy said:
lets see.... one tone, one volume, P-Rails with the (2) 3 way switches set to give me parallel coils, single coil, or P90.

maybe.... replace the toggle switch with a blend pot? 250 or 500k?
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500k. But what about the second set of volume/tone controls? You could keep the toggle for quick switching and have the blend pot only work in the center position. This would use up one of your unwanted knobs... unless of course, you've decided to use both sets after all.

Personally I agree with you... I like just a master volume & master tone. However, I also hate the idea of having controls that are "dummies" on a guitar too. [emoji6]


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Re: P-Rails on 335 with one Vol pot

thinkin to put the 3 way (on,on,on) switches in the 2nd set of holes... one for each pickup. feed that to the toggle, then the master vol & tone. that fills all the holes

I wouldn't have bucker in series sounds, but I have 2 other humbucker guitars anyway. I've really developed a taste for the P90 lately, and thats become my main sound. if I decide I don't like the parallel bucker sound as much as the series sound I can change a couple wires
 
Re: P-Rails on 335 with one Vol pot

No.

Definitely use the Triple shots on each P-Rail. You get P-90 (best), Rail (great), parallel (very usable), and series (ok).
Then you can have a master volume, two tones (which you probably don't use much anyway, but they will be available to tailor each pup's tone), then in the remaining hole put a mini toggle for phase between pups.
 
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Doesn't matter which one gets phased.


TripleShots on the P-Rails. Those were literally made for each other.

If 4 knobs is too much work, replacing 2 knobs with 2 toggles is going to be even more work.
 
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