PAF's in a strat-what to expect tonewise

Quencho092

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I'm thinking of setting up a HH strat pickguard loaded with 2 seth lover pickups. perhaps sometime next year ill throw them in a highway 1 strat. What kinds of tonal differences can one expect with PAF's in a strat, anyone play a similar formula? I figure it would sound phenomenal
 
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Humbuckers in a Strat is an excellent combination. You can definitely expect a warmer, darker and smoother sound plus a little of that Fender top-end although it won't be as pronounced.
 
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PAFs in a strat have lots of character. My bandmate has a 59 in his bridge and I love the way it sounds. It's very articulate and sensitive. The Seth Lover in the neck will be pretty fat and very smooth. I actually like the 59n a little more, in a strat, tele, or LP. It's a little more glassy and sensitive - not saying the SLn is a bad pickup though.. not even.
 
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UH... Seths are not PAF's. IN order to get a real PAF you have to pull them out of a Gibson made between 1957 thru 1963. The Seths, and Antiquity PUPS are really good PUPS, but they are a long way from a PAF's. That being said I think those PUPS would be an excellent choice to put in a Strat. Hiram Bullock used to HB in a 64 Strat(not sure of the year), It was a great sound!
 
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Bluedave, i see what you mean, in your opinion what pickup made today comes closest to PAF tone?
 
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I've owned a few old Gibson humbuckers from between '57 and '63...probably a dozen or so. They all had similarities but every one was also unique. They all have a certain complex warmth to the tone and a certain vocal quality that's very appealing to me.

But none of my oldies sounded as good or as powerful to me as the Les Paul Jeff Beck used live when I heard him in '67 doing songs off of the Truth album. That's the one that a repairman later stole the pickups out of and Seymour invented the Jazz and JB and put them in an old Tele and gave it to Jeff...because his Les Paul lost that tone when the repairman ripped off the original paf's.

I use Tom Holmes HB's in my favorite Les Paul...I don't think they can be beat. To me, they do get the tone I remember Jeff's Les Paul having.

But I also think the Duncan Antiquity does as good a job at emulating the paf tone as anything out there. To me, they have more of the classic and normal 50's paf tone whereas the Holmes have the hotter tone that just a few old pafs had.

And the Seths are excellant too tho not quite as "open" and "hollow" of a voice as the Antiquity.

The Tom Holmes HB's have more growl and bark to them tho and that's what I was after...Jeff Beck's my favorite guitarist and when I was kid I wanted to sound just like him. Never could tho!

But that's not the tone of Eric Clapton's Cream era Les Paul that he used on Fresh Cream. Maybe it's just the way he played and the way he set his amp, but it's a smoother tone than Beck's and in a way, a more classic and normal vintage paf tone...more like the real pafs I've had in my guitars and like the Antiquitys, IMO.

That Cream era Clapton tone is actually a nicer tone I think than the Jeff Beck paf tone...more refined.

Dan Erlewine swears by the Rolphs.

The thing is, everyone has a differant idea about what the ultimate paf replica should sound like because we all have diferant tastes and play differantly and hear differantly.

When I became a Duncan and Fralin dealer I put my old Gibson pafs on Ebay and sold them all! Between the Duncans, the Tom Holmes and the Lindy Fralin humbuckers, I honestly felt I was getting a better tone out of the newer humbuckers than my oldies...so I sold them.

Maybe Dr. Barlo will join in on this...he'd kind of an expert on boutique humbuckers.

Lew
 
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I really like Ants, and I think Lew described them well. They have a more delicate, sweet sound to them. I have a set of Lollar Imperials that are my favorites tho. They are not overly hot, and retain much of the sweetness of the Ants, but they get up and drive real well when I want them to. Nice and woody, with good bark and clarity. I have a set of Timbuckers on the way (after a 14 month wait). Should be interesting to compare them. A friend of mine who owns 4 original bursts and a lot of PAFs couldn't stand the Timbuckers...they threw too much heat for him. He swears by Antiquities. He also has a set of Rolphs that he thinks sound pretty nice. It's whatever sounds best to your ears.
 
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If you want an idea of what a Strat with HB's can do, listen to some Yngwie Malmsteen. He has a strat with 2 Dimaezio PAF's, that guitar can absolutely SCREAM. I may not like Yngwie's playing, but he's got good tone.
 
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i never knew yngwie played an HH strat too. I always thought he only played the hs3 stacks and a yjm stack in the bridge on his strats.cool.
 
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