Paring P-Rails with Filtertron style Pick ups

[Dab745]

I have a Godin Montreal Premier LTD. with 2 P Rails. I am thinking of replacing the neck Pup with a filter-tron style pup. Or a TV Jones Classic. What do I need to consider? Has anyone done this? I am looking for a more traditional HB style sound in the neck while still keeping the versatility of the P-Rail in the bridge. Or maybe I replace the bridge pup to a -tron and flip the P-rail in the neck. I like the P-rails, but don't love them.
Thanks to the forum in advance for your thoughts.
DB

 

[TVFV]

Re: Paring P-Rails with Filtertron style Pick ups

Have you tried them in parallel?

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[Dab745]

Re: Paring P-Rails with Filtertron style Pick ups

I have not done anything to the stock setup. And i think they are in series. So I guess the answer would be no. I really like the P-90. and the rail in the neck. I want to flip the neck to get the rail closer up the neck and get a beefier bridge sound with ??? something else.
thanks for the note.
DB

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: Paring P-Rails with Filtertron style Pick ups

Beefier than the P-Rails in series?!

 

[Dab745]

Re: Paring P-Rails with Filtertron style Pick ups

Beefier than the P-Rails in series?!

Maybe I don’t know if they are in series or parallel. How would I tell?


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[Mincer]

Re: Paring P-Rails with Filtertron style Pick ups

What does the switch do on that guitar? Also, what don't you like about the P-Rails, the way it is configured now?

 

[Dab745]

Re: Paring P-Rails with Filtertron style Pick ups

What does the switch do on that guitar? Also, what don't you like about the P-Rails, the way it is configured now?

I have 2 p rails. The Rails are facing each other. 3 switches. 1st. Is 3 way (bridge, both, neck). 2nd and 3rd (next to each other) split the pups. (Each controls 1 pup). Up= p90, middle = Humbucker, down = rail.
The bridge p-rail is great in p90, good in rail only. Dark in Humbucker position. The neck is similar but a bit muddy. I know this is all subjective, but I am looking to keep the bridge and go tv Jones neck.



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[Dab745]

Re: Paring P-Rails with Filtertron style Pick ups

What does the switch do on that guitar? Also, what don't you like about the P-Rails, the way it is configured now?

BTY, thank you.


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[Mincer]

Re: Paring P-Rails with Filtertron style Pick ups

I play a Montreal Premiere, too, but mine came with a 59 and a Jazz. I am surprised that they didn't include a series/parallel switch for each pickup (or just Triple Shot rings), as P-Rails in parallel is one of the better sounds available with those.

 

[Dab745]

Re: Paring P-Rails with Filtertron style Pick ups

I play a Montreal Premiere, too, but mine came with a 59 and a Jazz. I am surprised that they didn't include a series/parallel switch for each pickup (or just Triple Shot rings), as P-Rails in parallel is one of the better sounds available with those.

Huh. I emailed Godin to see if the stock set-up of the p-rails are series or parallel.


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[Dab745]

Re: Paring P-Rails with Filtertron style Pick ups

Huh. I emailed Godin to see if the stock set-up of the p-rails are series or parallel.


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Parallel


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[GuitarDoc]

Re: Paring P-Rails with Filtertron style Pick ups

. Up= p90, middle = Humbucker, down = rail.
The bridge p-rail is great in p90, good in rail only. Dark in Humbucker position

"Dark in Humbucker position". That is very weird since it would be parallel in bucker. Parallel is usually a pretty bright sound and in all of my P-Rails it is brighter than the P-90 tone. It IS dark in series mode, however.

You should try mounting the bridge P-Rail with the Rail coil toward the bridge. It works MUCH better that way.

 

[Dab745]

Re: Paring P-Rails with Filtertron style Pick ups

"Dark in Humbucker position". That is very weird since it would be parallel in bucker. Parallel is usually a pretty bright sound and in all of my P-Rails it is brighter than the P-90 tone. It IS dark in series mode, however.

You should try mounting the bridge P-Rail with the Rail coil toward the bridge. It works MUCH better that way.

Thanks. I’ll try the flip.


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[Aceman]

Re: Paring P-Rails with Filtertron style Pick ups

Someone messed up here. I knows - that's obvious...

And that's just the PRail. Why do you want the Filtertrons???

 

[Dab745]

Re: Paring P-Rails with Filtertron style Pick ups

Someone messed up here. I knows - that's obvious...

And that's just the PRail. Why do you want the Filtertrons???

It came stock w 2 p rails. Rails facing in. I like the p90 and rail sound in the bridge. I love tvj. And I want a tvj classic or t-armond in the neck.


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