Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

[jrbowen81]

Hey guys, I was wondering... Since I'm predominantly doing only home recording with my amp, not currently gigging, my Peavey 6505+ is really starting to feel like major overkill. As much as I love having it, I've also become seriously interested in the Laney IRT Studio. For one thing, the USB and XLR outputs would enable me to do totally silent recording, which is super valuable when you have a sleeping 2-year old. Also, even though it's only 15 watts, I think it would still be plenty loud for whatever I may be doing with it otherwise, especially with my Port City OS 2x12 cab. That thing helps to move a lot of air.

Would I be totally insane to even consider letting go of my Peavey for the IRT Studio? From the comparison demos I've heard, it sounds every bit as good as the Peavey, if not maybe even better.


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[jrbowen81]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

Ok, the thing is, I was actually shopping for either a Peavey 6505+, Laney VH100R, or a Laney Ironheart at the time that I ended up with my Peavey. All that to say, I've been interested in the Ironheart line for a few years now, since right before the IRT Studio was released.


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[jrbowen81]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

Does anyone have experience with any of the amps I've mentioned?


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[dominus]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

Put a good loadbox on the 6505+

Run a cable from the FX Send into the computer. Add plugins for a power amp simulator and cabinet simulator. Done.

 

[Archer250]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

IRT Studio sounds damn good. I've attended a Jack Thammarat clinic. He uses one. Sounds damn awesome.

 

[jrbowen81]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

Put a good loadbox on the 6505+

Run a cable from the FX Send into the computer. Add plugins for a power amp simulator and cabinet simulator. Done.

Actually, I run it through a THD Hotplate currently anyway, since it's STUPID loud in my house without one. Lol... I've tried switching it to LOAD and running an instrument cable from the LINE OUT on the back of the Hotplate, into my Focusrite Scarlett 2i2, setting it to LINE LEVEL input. Then, I record the HORRIBLE sounding direct signal into my DAW. Luckily, I have Torpedo Wall of Sound III installed, and I use one of the 4x12 cab sims on there. Actually sounds quite a bit better, but it could be better. I know I can always use effects, EQ and all that, but I'm still pretty new to DAW-based recording. I'm not so savvy on how to use the effects most efficiently. Plus, an old-school rule of thumb I learned (from several people more proficient than myself) is that you really want to get the best possible sound going into your recording in the first place BEFORE ever touching any effects or EQs. Seems like the only way I can achieve that is to go old-school and mic my cab (which I really want to do but it isn't realistic in my current situation), or get something where I can do a good quality D.I. sound like the IRT Studio seems to do very well.

(Whew! That was long. Sorry about that. Lol)


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[dominus]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

FX Loop is preamp only, that's why you add the poweramp sim plugin and cabinet after. Don't worry about the "best possible sound" going into your recording, that's *only* if you're plugging straight in and there's a possibility of not adding FX to a track. Since you would need to add a cabinet sim at some point, you're only concerned about the volume level. The "horrible" sound is how an *amplifier* actually sounds. The "good" sounds come from the speakers.

The DI signal from the Laney has the cabinet IR already built in. That's fine, *if* that's the mic'd up sound you're looking for and make it fit into your track. If you're using a computer, there's thousands of IRs available to tailor the sound you want.

 

[jrbowen81]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

FX Loop is preamp only, that's why you add the poweramp sim plugin and cabinet after. Don't worry about the "best possible sound" going into your recording, that's *only* if you're plugging straight in and there's a possibility of not adding FX to a track. Since you would need to add a cabinet sim at some point, you're only concerned about the volume level. The "horrible" sound is how an *amplifier* actually sounds. The "good" sounds come from the speakers.

The DI signal from the Laney has the cabinet IR already built in. That's fine, *if* that's the mic'd up sound you're looking for and make it fit into your track. If you're using a computer, there's thousands of IRs available to tailor the sound you want.

Right on. I guess when it comes down to it, I just REALLY want a Laney. Lol


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[jrbowen81]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

Run a cable from the FX Send into the computer. Add plugins for a power amp simulator and cabinet simulator. Done.

So... I just remembered my amp also has a "Preamp Out" jack on the rear panel. Would that basically be the same as the FX Send, or would I need to use that specifically?



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[jrbowen81]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

Ok, just to shift gears for a moment... Would I be crazy to get an Ironheart 60watt head place of my 6505+? I mean, Laneys are just plain good amps anyway.

It even sounds better (to me) than a bias-modded 6505, at least in this example.

http://youtu.be/5QWE-Eh7Luw


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[dominus]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

So... I just remembered my amp also has a "Preamp Out" jack on the rear panel. Would that basically be the same as the FX Send, or would I need to use that specifically?

Functionally the same thing as an FX Send.

 

[jrbowen81]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

Functionally the same thing as an FX Send.

Ok. I may have to try that soon. I guess running from the Line Out on my Hotplate is different then, right?


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[Myaccount876]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

You can try what I do - put the amp and cab in the most sound-isolated part of the house, like a bathroom. Mic the amp in the bathroom, shut all the doors and windows, blast the amp to your heart's content, and record. It's what I do with my Bassman 70, and I have bother the Preamp and Master volumes on 10. Gets loud, but I live in a suburb of retired people and no one has ever complained.

 

[jrbowen81]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

You can try what I do - put the amp and cab in the most sound-isolated part of the house, like a bathroom. Mic the amp in the bathroom, shut all the doors and windows, blast the amp to your heart's content, and record. It's what I do with my Bassman 70, and I have bother the Preamp and Master volumes on 10. Gets loud, but I live in a suburb of retired people and no one has ever complained.

Yeah, there's no way I can get away with that here. Lol... Especially since we only have 1 bathroom. And I have a toddler that would trip over and pull on the cables that would be running through the kitchen, across the living room, down the hall and into the bathroom. I'm pretty much confined to one room in the house right now, which is also my wife's home office. Hahaha... Great idea though, if it's practical for you. I know a guy who has a great setup in his house with his computer & mixer in one room, running cables out the door and around the corner into the next room which is dedicated to micing his cabs. Pretty sweet. I'd pretty much have to get a different house to be able to pull that off.


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[jrbowen81]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

Oh, and this old 1950s-built house has no sound isolation whatsoever. It's bad. Lol


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[Der Oberherr]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

Ok, just to shift gears for a moment... Would I be crazy to get an Ironheart 60watt head place of my 6505+? I mean, Laneys are just plain good amps anyway.

It even sounds better (to me) than a bias-modded 6505, at least in this example.

I have a Laney IRT60. Can't really compare with a 6505+ as I have never tried one. But the Laney is a pretty good amp. It's got a lot of punch to it and the clean sound is actually really good as well as the overdrive sound. It really surprised me. The 'watts' dial is a lifesaver, as it allows me to play without annoying neighbours or ripping the tiles off of the roof with volume. It's definitely worth trying out.

Also, if the IRT studio is anything like the other amps in the range, it will be a little monster!

 

[Sleepy]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

Your reply to every post is "but I want the laney" so I guess get the laney

:thumbsup:

 

[jrbowen81]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

Your reply to every post is "but I want the laney" so I guess get the laney

:thumbsup:

So I guess send me the money! Then, I'd have both! LOL



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[jrbowen81]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

I still need to try recording direct from my "preamp out" jack and compare the sound to the tracks I recorded from the "line out" on the HotPlate. Maybe that will solve the problem. The cab sims on Wall of Sound III are very good, but somehow I'm still lacking the aggression and attack that I get from playing through my real speaker cab. Of course my current cab is the baddest one I've ever owned, but I digress.

Anyway, as far as this direct recording/using cab sims thing, I have a feeling that I may regain a lot of the attack and bite from my amp by running straight out the back of the amp itself rather than through the HotPlate and THEN into my interface. I'm just thinking there has to be some sort of tone loss there. The HotPlate is good, but of course it's not perfect.


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[dominus]

Re: Peavey 6505+ vs Laney IRT Studio

I still need to try recording direct from my "preamp out" jack and compare the sound to the tracks I recorded from the "line out" on the HotPlate. Maybe that will solve the problem. The cab sims on Wall of Sound III are very good, but somehow I'm still lacking the aggression and attack that I get from playing through my real speaker cab. Of course my current cab is the baddest one I've ever owned, but I digress.

Anyway, as far as this direct recording/using cab sims thing, I have a feeling that I may regain a lot of the attack and bite from my amp by running straight out the back of the amp itself rather than through the HotPlate and THEN into my interface. I'm just thinking there has to be some sort of tone loss there. The HotPlate is good, but of course it's not perfect.

Just remember that you're plugging the FX Send (Or Preamp Out or whatever) into the computer and NOT the speaker out. Keep the hotplate on the Speaker out as a load. There won't be any tone suck from the Hotplate and it probably will make a difference. (Remember that it will sound buzzy and horrible on its own, that's how preamps sound. )