peavey valveking speaker question?

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sweet. Make sure to bias it when you get it, as bias can drift over time as tubes wear in. If you can, down the line, try to save some money for a retube depending on what's in it now. You make like the amp now but chances are you'll like it more with good glass in it.
 
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FuseG4 said:
sweet. Make sure to bias it when you get it, as bias can drift over time as tubes wear in. If you can, down the line, try to save some money for a retube depending on what's in it now. You make like the amp now but chances are you'll like it more with good glass in it.
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i hear ya. first thing i do as far as upgrades will probably be throwing some sort of low gain(12a7 or 12at7) tube in v1, that's usually the biggest tone changer as far as tubes go IME. i don't have a bias probe though, so i'll need to get one of those before i just start randomly trying to bias it, let alone change the power stage tubes. although down the line, i'll probably want to get some el34s and maybe swap the speaker. that's waaay down the line though:lmao:

i'm not too concerned about biasing it when i get it though, it already sounds good enough that i'm willing to buy it;)
 
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It's cool you've found something that works for ya. It seem you've got your pedal gear to a point where what you need most is a just a good vehicle for em, something that agrees with what you already have. I can see why you'd wanna do less gain with a 5751 or a 12ay7 (12at7's I've heard are supposed to sound pretty bad in v1, something about strident mids?). Sounds like you just need enough gain to add some flavour to what you're gonna throw in front.
Something tells me you'd be right at home with a Twin Reverb.
 
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FuseG4 said:
It's cool you've found something that works for ya. It seem you've got your pedal gear to a point where what you need most is a just a good vehicle for em, something that agrees with what you already have. I can see why you'd wanna do less gain with a 5751 or a 12ay7 (12at7's I've heard are supposed to sound pretty bad in v1, something about strident mids?). Sounds like you just need enough gain to add some flavour to what you're gonna throw in front.
Something tells me you'd be right at home with a Twin Reverb.
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i probably would be! i like fender cleans, and of course marshally dirt. well, all kindsa dirt, mostly marshalls though. i've already got all my dirt covered with pedals, but if i want a real high gain sound this amp's got that over any fender (that i could afford) out there. so with the overdrives i get the marshall sounds, with the fuzz i get the pumpkins sound, and with the dirt channel i get thrash. with such a versatile setup, now all i need to do is find a cover band!:lmao:

ideally though, i really would like to have a twin(or that dr. Z head that's supposed to be a 50w blackface), but for now this will definitely do.

as far as the tubes go, i can't completely recall but i think i actually had a 12at7 in v1 when i had the windsor, and it worked wonders for that amp. but then again, it's a completely different amp, and it may have been a 12au7, i can't remember:dunno: i'm definitely going to get a lower gain tube for v1 though, that's for sure:fing2:

edit: i just remembered while re-reading your post, i need to get my ce-2 chorus pedal back from my friend! lul
 
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The VK Is a fixed Bias amp so unless you get the mod done, you really only need to change the tubes and maybe the OT if you really wanna put that much time into the amp. If not then the easiest and Best way to get what you want out of this amp would be Tubes, speaker swap, and EQ thru the loop. The loop is a buffered loop so putting a 7 band EQ in there is really going to a ton of flexability.
 
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That sucks, there's no bias pot? yikes. I love being able to bias my amp. there's some kind of bias setting for a given tube that has great tone and long tube life and I like being able to find it no matter what... oh well.

+1 for an EQ in the loop. I do this sometimes with my amp, and while I don't need it all the time, things like a lil treble roll-off or mid-boost can be great. footswitchable too! yay
 
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Mattr4president said:
The VK Is a fixed Bias amp so unless you get the mod done, you really only need to change the tubes and maybe the OT if you really wanna put that much time into the amp. If not then the easiest and Best way to get what you want out of this amp would be Tubes, speaker swap, and EQ thru the loop. The loop is a buffered loop so putting a 7 band EQ in there is really going to a ton of flexability.
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even if it is "fixed bias," that doesn't mean that i can't adjust the bias. i forget the reason why, but i think it has something to do with the fact that the bias stays at wherever you set it, whereas adjustable bias is something like an ac30 where you can't manually adjust it, but it constantly goes between class A and A/B depending on how hard you play.

fwiw my peavey windsor was "fixed bias" but it still had a bias pot.
 
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FuseG4 said:
That sucks, there's no bias pot? yikes. I love being able to bias my amp. there's some kind of bias setting for a given tube that has great tone and long tube life and I like being able to find it no matter what... oh well.

+1 for an EQ in the loop. I do this sometimes with my amp, and while I don't need it all the time, things like a lil treble roll-off or mid-boost can be great. footswitchable too! yay
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i tried an EQ in the loop before, and i didn't like how much hiss/noise it produced. but it's worth giving a shot again i guess, right?
 
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You can have a mod done to adjust the Bias but there is no Bias pot on this amp. Per Peavey it is a fixed Bias which means you throw your tubes in and play. There are plently of people over at the peavey forums that have done this mod but stock off the factory floor there is no Bias Pot to play with. Going between A and A/B isn't the Bias Pot. That texture knob is to mix between the 2 power types, Class A and Class A/B. The difference between the 2 is very long and beyond a simple posting, but basically Class A/B will give you a tighter sound (almost rectified) and Class A has much more "Sagg" or "classic" amp sound to it. You can play with that texture knob all day and it doesn't affect the bias.
 
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Yeah I would put an EQ it the loop and pull down the Highest EQ slider and it will take out a lot of that hiss.
 
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Mattr4president said:
You can have a mod done to adjust the Bias but there is no Bias pot on this amp. Per Peavey it is a fixed Bias which means you throw your tubes in and play. There are plently of people over at the peavey forums that have done this mod but stock off the factory floor there is no Bias Pot to play with. Going between A and A/B isn't the Bias Pot. That texture knob is to mix between the 2 power types, Class A and Class A/B. The difference between the 2 is very long and beyond a simple posting, but basically Class A/B will give you a tighter sound (almost rectified) and Class A has much more "Sagg" or "classic" amp sound to it. You can play with that texture knob all day and it doesn't affect the bias.
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we shall see. people on here said the same thing when i had the windsor and asked about biasing it, but lo and behold it had a bias trim pot! we shall see.
 
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super rad stuff said:
we shall see. people on here said the same thing when i had the windsor and asked about biasing it, but lo and behold it had a bias trim pot! we shall see.
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Where on the Windsor was the trim pot located? Did you have the head or Windsor studio?
 
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Fixed bias doesn't mean "Plug and Play" as many in the Peavey Forum advertise.

My Valveking head is fixed bias, meaning it is set to a particular bias, has no cathode to keep the bias in a range, and doesn't have a bias pot, meaning it is not adjustable. Mine also runs hotter than I would think Peavey would have intended it to, but it sounds good.

CharlieP from Ultimate Guitar and the Peavey Forum has a bias mod for the Valveking making it fixed and adjustable.

Because Peavey's, and a few other brands, are fixed bias non-adjustable, if you were to just "plug n' play" you would want to specify cool biased tubes from a tube supplier because if the tubes run to hot, in stock form there is no way to turn the bias down.

I find it better to at least check the bias to know what the tubes are doing rather than just plugging in tubes and playing.
 
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In fact CharlieP has some good tweaks and mods for the Valveking.

There is lots of information in the Valveking section of the UG website.

I generally prefer tube changes before other mods but there is lots to swallow on the UG website.
 
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Mattr4president said:
Where on the Windsor was the trim pot located? Did you have the head or Windsor studio?
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i haven't had that amp in forever, but i had the stack. if you take the head unit out of the case, it was somewhere in the middle on the bottom of the circuit board.
 
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wixedmords said:
Fixed bias doesn't mean "Plug and Play" as many in the Peavey Forum advertise.

My Valveking head is fixed bias, meaning it is set to a particular bias, has no cathode to keep the bias in a range, and doesn't have a bias pot, meaning it is not adjustable. Mine also runs hotter than I would think Peavey would have intended it to, but it sounds good.

CharlieP from Ultimate Guitar and the Peavey Forum has a bias mod for the Valveking making it fixed and adjustable.

Because Peavey's, and a few other brands, are fixed bias non-adjustable, if you were to just "plug n' play" you would want to specify cool biased tubes from a tube supplier because if the tubes run to hot, in stock form there is no way to turn the bias down.

I find it better to at least check the bias to know what the tubes are doing rather than just plugging in tubes and playing.
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thanks for the info man! do you think i'd be able to do the adjustable/fixed bias mod myself? i mean, the amp already sounds decent enough with what it's got so i don't know that i'd necessarily want to change the power tubes to 34s.

however.... would you happen to know off hand if there are el34 tubes that operate within the bias range of the valveking?
 
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wixedmords said:
In fact CharlieP has some good tweaks and mods for the Valveking.

There is lots of information in the Valveking section of the UG website.

I generally prefer tube changes before other mods but there is lots to swallow on the UG website.
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just made a profile on U-G, i'ma search for that stuff. thanks!

edit: would this be the valveking thread you were refering to?
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=969296&highlight=charliep
 
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wixedmords said:
Fixed bias doesn't mean "Plug and Play" as many in the Peavey Forum advertise.

My Valveking head is fixed bias, meaning it is set to a particular bias, has no cathode to keep the bias in a range, and doesn't have a bias pot, meaning it is not adjustable. Mine also runs hotter than I would think Peavey would have intended it to, but it sounds good.

CharlieP from Ultimate Guitar and the Peavey Forum has a bias mod for the Valveking making it fixed and adjustable.

Because Peavey's, and a few other brands, are fixed bias non-adjustable, if you were to just "plug n' play" you would want to specify cool biased tubes from a tube supplier because if the tubes run to hot, in stock form there is no way to turn the bias down.

I find it better to at least check the bias to know what the tubes are doing rather than just plugging in tubes and playing.
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Correct and this is more of what i was trying to say. Not that the Bias can't be changed but its not as simple as having the trim pot available. A mod would need to be done to adjust the Bias. Per an e-mail i recieved from Peavey though they are Biased so that you can put any matched quad set of 6L6gc's in there and not have to worry about the bias. but i'm just going by my conversation with the Peavey Rep.
 
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Mattr4president said:
Correct and this is more of what i was trying to say. Not that the Bias can't be changed but its not as simple as having the trim pot available. A mod would need to be done to adjust the Bias. Per an e-mail i recieved from Peavey though they are Biased so that you can put any matched quad set of 6L6gc's in there and not have to worry about the bias. but i'm just going by my conversation with the Peavey Rep.
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i see. well, i have no desire to be fatally shocked anytime soon, so i think i'll pass on trying to mod it myself:lmao:
 
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super rad stuff said:
thanks for the info man! do you think i'd be able to do the adjustable/fixed bias mod myself? i mean, the amp already sounds decent enough with what it's got so i don't know that i'd necessarily want to change the power tubes to 34s.

however.... would you happen to know off hand if there are el34 tubes that operate within the bias range of the valveking?
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bump?
 
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