Pedalboard Completed . Commentary. Pics.

[MetalManiac]

I had posted my Pedalbaord that was in flux awhile ago. I believe after much soul searching, that I have reached a stasis. At this point I'll post pics, and then provide commentary ( note the pedals on the board board aren't hooked up yet.).

Okay..the Board is intended to be a dedicated Overdrive only board to push the front end of a Marshall Amp, and also a Blackface Bassman Amp and In my specific case, a '77 JMP 100 watt and a '66 Blackface Bassman.

The Board is primarily concerned about having the original great Overdrives form the era of my JMP and used on countless recordings represented. There are also a few other aspects I incorporated. Space on the medium sized PT-SC Pedaltrain board limited me from adding a couple other pedals I wanted.

Starting from top right to left I have my newly Acquired DOD Analogman JYM 308 "Mojo Mod" , which is supposed to be a very faithful representation of a DOD Gray Box 250+ pedal. The pedal sounds fabulous, but has a certain fuzz quality or edginess on the top end I figured would be eliminated with the Analogman mod. Overall an astounding pedal. Thick, Crisp, very clear ,open and full.

Next is the BYOC MXR Distortion + Clone of the Randy Rhoads pedal. Don't know too much except people suggested it needs a cranked Marshall to come alive, because it doesn't sound all that great as is IMO.

Then we have the Boss OD-1 Silver Screw with the JR5588 ( or something) chip.
Haven't played this in awhile, but as I recall, through the Marshall it has a very sweet singing quality and a edgy bite without being fizzy.

Then I have the Green TS-9 modified to Ts-808 specs. The only thing I can say about the TS-808 is that you got to throw away everything you hear about responsiveness, bypass, mid hump, and everything else , and realize it simply is the greatest sounding pedal bar none ever made . Thats of course just my opinion, but it just has that creamy smooth beautiful low mid -mi bloom that is the Ne PLus Ultra of the entire pedal world.

Rounding out the top row we have the Clark Point to Point Hardwired Gainster pedal. A true thing of beauty to see inside. Just like the guts of a tweed amp. It can do a clean boost , but it shines when imparting a tweed voice to either a Marshall or a Bassman Amp.

STARTING BOTTOM ROW LEFT TO RIGHT:

An Analog Delay,.I chose the Maxon AD-9. I don't require much of a Delay, but i use it constantly only for trails at the end of a lead line, and I have to believe this one has a little extra girth and analog richness as compared to a Carbon Copy.Not sure though.


Next is the Ts-808 Landgraff Circuit Copy Pedal. It earned a spot on this board cause I really like the tone pf middle toggle position of the LED Clipping Diodes lifted out of the circuit on this pedal cause of the organic fill sound and texture and not really the LEds in the modification like many others like about it..

Coming Next I have the Old OOP Marshall Guv'Nor.This pedal is a classic and for me I have it to get a very Marshally sound everywhere from a heavy Plexi'ish Brown sound to a heavy Crunch Stock JCM800 all the way to a modified or pedal overdriven JCM800.

Penultimate we have the Marshall Bluesbreaker. This is the pedal the KOT is based on. Very low gain pedal that could take eithet the Bassman '66 or the '77 Marshall JMP MKII and voice it for that early Bluesbreaker Round Organic vibe.

Finally we have a great pedal, the Duncan Lava Box.Can get some modern sounds and do a swell cleanish Boost . Quickly fattens a thin SC, or adds some clarity to a wolly neck humbucker at the turn of the Rumble Mod Switch.

Well, there you have it folks. Thanks for stopping in.

 

[MetalManiac]

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So you've got 10 pedals on there, and 9 of them are dirt pedals?

Yes because the Board is intended to be a dedicated Overdrive only board to push the front end of a Marshall Amp, and also a Blackface BassmanAmp and In my specific case, a '77 JMP 100 watt and a '66 Blackface Bassman.
Trust me , i have a grand pedalboard in the works with all the other sorts of goodies. ''Fuzzfaces, Muffs, Flangers, Rats ,Tonebenders, Phasers , Chorus, Octaver..and all top notch!
Thanks.

 

[Lazarus1140]

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I was paying attention when you explained why you had chosen those particular pedals for your OD board, but I have a question about one that is not there.

Do you own a Rockett Animal Overdrive and, if so, how did it stack up against the other pedals you tried when you were looking for Plexi in a box?

 

[MetalManiac]

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I was paying attention when you explained why you had chosen those particular pedals for your OD board, but I have a question about one that is not there.

Do you own a Rockett Animal Overdrive and, if so, how did it stack up against the other pedals you tried when you were looking for Plexi in a box?

Never spent any time with the Rockett at all Laz. I realize AFTER I ordered the Rockett that The Guv'nor does everything 'Brown' ,Jimi or Angus I need, at least wiht my 100 Watt JMP MAster MKII. Wanna try the Rocket? I'll send it to you..send it back when your done. Bet its a great pedal. Sure seemed to nail Angus' late 60's Plexi Vibe on the clips.

 

[phil_104]

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Yes because the Board is intended to be a dedicated Overdrive only board to push the front end of a Marshall Amp, and also a Blackface BassmanAmp and In my specific case, a '77 JMP 100 watt and a '66 Blackface Bassman.
Trust me , i have a grand pedalboard in the works with all the other sorts of goodies. ''Fuzzfaces, Muffs, Flangers, Rats ,Tonebenders, Phasers , Chorus, Octaver..and all top notch!
Thanks.

That seems odd to me; I can't think of a single situation where I would need 9 different overdrives or distortions. 3 tops, but 9 is a lot. What ever floats your boat I guess.

So I guess I gotta ask; which one is your favorite?

 

[Gearjoneser]

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I want that Boss OD-1, mostly for nostalgic reasons. That was the OD I used as a teenager till about 22 years old. I still think it was one of Boss's best OD's ever.

 

[kjrocks]

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Please turn that Clark up straight!

 

[FuseG4]

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so what does it sound like with all of them on at once

 

[MetalManiac]

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so what does it sound like with all of them on at once

Like 16 Ohm Texas heat played at full bore through an 8 Ohm amp with a buzzing noisy fuzzface .

 

[Lazarus1140]

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Wanna try the Rocket? I'll send it to you..send it back when your done. Bet its a great pedal. Sure seemed to nail Angus' late 60's Plexi Vibe on the clips.

That is a very generous offer and I may take you up on it someday if you don't sell it before then! :beerchug:

I heard some live demos of the Rockett pedals and all were very impressive, but who knows .... the guitarist and guitar were top shelf as was the amp.

Right now my GAS has dircted me to a Wampler Ecstacy.



When are we going to see the modulation effects board?

 

[Agileguy_101]

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Without actually looking at or reading anything - you spent too much on a bunch of redundant, pointless crap.

EDIT: Imagine that, I was right. Are you sure you're not a member of TGP in disguise?

 

[Diego]

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What can I say? Some of you call it excessive.

But I'd LOVE to have all those pedals to play with.
I'd hardly use more than two live, but for recording, rehearsing, and having fun overall? I'd have them all.
I would add my own Metal Muff for the "washed out Mesa in a box" sound like someone else said, though.

Nice, really nice man.

And a question for MM and all of you:
He mentions that his TS-9 modded to a TS-808 has "that creamy smooth beautiful low mid -mi bloom that is the Ne PLus Ultra of the entire pedal world".

So for those like me who are after that violin-thing (that I can't quite nail without turning too many knobs and ruining other sounds),
with a completely smooth, almost non-present attack and tons of sustain for solos with the neck pickup,
I should go hunting for one of those? Of course there's the amp and the guitar and all that,
but it sounds like my ticket. What would you guys say about that?

 

[King IzzO)))]

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Dude, even I wouldn't run that many dirt boxes.

But you can send me a couple and we can be even then.

 

[MetalManiac]

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To respond to a few posts here. My favorite is the Tube Screamer. I actually am not sure about the "low Mid Bloom" thing, but whatever it is, tis gorgeous.
I don't have a lot of playtime on these pedals, but from my experience many of these and other TS stye pedals will get a sweet singing "violin "tone Diego...a DS-1, TS-808, OD-1, MXR GT-OD.. I'd try a Behringer TS clone to see if you like it..they are cheap and supposed to be pretty close I think. Also, if you don't have a DOd YJM 308, that is THE best value in a great sounding new TS type pedal IMO, and they can be modded to 250+ specs . Also keep on the lookout for a Lava Box. The Lava Box is very amp like in response..a very reasonably priced versatile pedal and can get that singing liquid woman tone. My point of reference for listening to all these pedals is currently just a Crate Powerblock through a EV12L, just a simple practice rig. I am really anxious to play them through my Marshall .

Anyhow, I don't consider I spent too much on them. The only pedal I just outright threw money at was the OD-1, and it was my first pedal I got close to 5 years ago. I only now got the last pedal- the YJM Dod 308/250+ and I took my time and got sweet deals on almost all of them .
It may seem like a bunch of redundant TS type pedals, but ya gotta realize- many of these are THE Classics from the old days..most of which, like the two Marshall pedals on the bottom, were designed to push a 100 watt Marshall head, since there were no high gain amps and the only other way you could get a ramped up sound was to have your Marshall modified.
Take some of the pedals on the top row..the Dod 250+ clone, the OD-1, The TS-9/808 ..all classic pedals ..all pedals youve heard somewhere , sometime on some famous recording. Each voiced differently, and great great sounding pedals in and of themselves. redundant..no..its not as if I have 10 Tubescreamers lined up at all.

As for the Marshall pedals, the Bluesbreaker is a low gain pedal. Of course its a Tube Screamer variant..its said almost every pedal is, but to say that pedal is redundant to a Tubescreamer isn't accurate..its got its own pretty special thing happening, and again, its kind of a classic...not so much as the others (oD-1, TS808, Dod 250+, Dist.+) Its similar to the Guv'nor,and I could probably live with just the Guv'nor on the board but the Guv'nor is more of a JCM 800 territory rocker pedal and has a different sweet spot .
Is there a reccuring theme here? Yeah..Classics!
Its a pedalboard to have the major classic overdrives available on one board , and to goose an old Marshall JMP Master/JCM 800 amp.
If it was strictly for a Fender Twin,for example one or two pedals woulda' been fine. Are there hundreds of other modern great TS variant pedals out there? Sure, and I have a couple of of them on the board- the Landgraff TS808 and the Lava Box..but they aren't..whats the word?...* "classics".

Again, as for flange, phase, chorus, etc., I have all that, but in a different pedalboard. In fact, I'm making one pedalboard right now dedicated to only distortions and fuzzs'.

 

[Andrew Lamprecht]

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I haven't played most of those pedals but I'd be willing to be there is a lot of layover and similarities in those pedals. By tweaking an amps eq you could get that ts to sound like the bluesbreaker for ex.

Not trying to be rude but you read into stuff too much and don't use it or at least it seems like that. If you play more and get better you'll realize how to get more sounds out of your equipment rather than your equipment getting hold of you... People who let that happen think you can't get a certain sound because you don't have a certain piece of gear which is kinda crap.

Just a friendly observation...

 

[the guy who invented fire]

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I'm not even going to say a word on the fact that you put that board together I will hawever say that the Marshall Bluesbreaker is not a TS style pedal...

 

[ErikH]

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I'm not even going to say a word on the fact that you put that board together I will hawever say that the Marshall Bluesbreaker is not a TS style pedal...

Neither is the DS-1 and YJM-308.

:alcoholic

 

[SteveAlysis]

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I'm not even going to say a word on the fact that you put that board together I will hawever say that the Marshall Bluesbreaker is not a TS style pedal...

Damn! I was waiting for an entertaining long response from you

 

[MetalManiac]

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Neither is the DS-1 and YJM-308.

:alcoholic

I'm sorry for disinformation. I got a little carried away with the "every pedal is a Tubescreamer variant " thing I heard.
I'd appreciate a rundown of what constitutes an actual Tubescreamer style guitar pedal variant and what would make a pedal disassociated from that category.

 

[ErikH]

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I'm sorry for disinformation. I got a little carried away with the "every pedal is a Tubescreamer variant " thing I heard.
I'd appreciate a rundown of what constitutes an actual Tubescreamer style guitar pedal variant and what would make a pedal disassociated from that category.

Well, for starters, looking at schematics and actually understanding what you are looking at helps a ton.

Second, the Tubescreamer has soft clipping where as the DS-1 and YJM308 have hard clipping (Google to look up the differences). Their circuits are different from a Tubescreamer (not just in the clipping).

Now, the Tubescreamer, SD-1 and ZW-44 are identical circuits with the difference being in part values and the clipping style (symmetrical versus asymmetrical). There are others that are TS based but not all overdrive pedals are. You have to look at the schematic or trace the circuit out to know for sure.