Pedals/board recommendations

drew_half_empty

drew_half_empty

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This is all months down the line, I just started my new job(s) and have been buying cigarettes instead of strings up until now, but I'm lookin at expanding the pedalboard. I'm the only guitarist in my band and we play proggy spacy stuff, I've been trying to limit my board up til now cause I felt like I needed to limit myself so I come up with more... harmonically and rhythmically creative parts, but now I think it's time to just... do it, so to speak.

EB Volume - korg pitch black - crybaby - ts9 - ehx cathedral

powered by a 1 spot and separate power supply for the cathedral. Right now it's in one of those NYC boxes, which I don't really like cause it's a pain in the ass to close with my volume pedal in there--and I got the EB jr. I'm not sure what boards I should look at so suggest whatever'll fit all this stuff. Since I still have 3 spots left on the 1-spot I'm probably gonna use it to power the rest of these, but I wanna mount a power strip to the board to plug the 1-spot and other power supplies to, and then just run an extension cord to wherever.


Pedals-

The first thing I know I really want is a looper, even though it's the one I'm gonna try not to use the most... if that makes sense. I've been lookin at the digitech jam man's, the 2 pedal ones. I saw Boris and Russian Circles both usin em so i figure they're probably good units. Opinions on them?

I need a dynacomp, but that's whatever, I'll pick one up on ebay when i got $50 to spare

I've also been lookin at octave pedals and the like, but the one I keep comin back to is that boss harmonist they just came out with. Not a big boss fan but those things look pretty cool, and versatile. The main harmony sounds are kind of cheesy yeah, you couldn't use them more than once or twice on an album, but it also has those crazy dive bomb and vibrato settings which could ALSO be used once or twice on an album so that helps.

Beyond that... I'm thinking about maybe something else..."spacy", but I have no idea what. I hate flangers and phasers, don't really want a delay... suggestions? The only things i've come across that I may use is the trem on my amp if i ever get a footswitch, and the fulltone MDV-2, the one in the wah enclosure.


Thanks
 
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Words can't describe how much I want this...

 
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cause I want really obvious clicky compression, like... used "as an effect" more than an on all the time thing
 
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Have you ever toyed with step phasers? The Boss Phase Shifter? Step phasing makes for some pretty cool modulation sounds that come across as really spacy and techy.
 
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In a spacy jam band more EH pedals are a good bet. Try a Q Tron envelope filter.
You can do a lot of stuff with it that turns people's heads.
 
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If you can hunt down an old Boss ps-3 pitch shifter/ delay there are tons of spacey sounds in there. I've got 5 main sounds I use on mine and im constantly finding more uses for it.
 
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How much do you want to spend?

I know you said you hate phasers, but the Pigtronix EP2 is a phaser + envelope filter that can do some seriously trippy stuff. Observe:

 
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Def the akai headrush if you're a serious looper. The dl4 works wonders for me as I don't use long loops. Dig the play once/in reverse features
 
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Well, you can either dismiss me as a lunatic or not, but I've been doing the "only guitarist in the band" thing for over 30 years. You don't need a dyna-comp. You don't need a looper. What you DO need, as the only "guitarist in the band", is a healthy supply of echo and distortion options, because you've got a lot of room to cover. Especially in the field of prog-rock. Ten years ago, I was in a 3 piece band doing Pink Floyd, Kansas, Yes, King Crimson and the like. Take that for what it's worth.
 
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Eh the phaser thing sounds too... funky. I hate, err, get annoyed by prog bands that do a lot of funk, it's so... cliche, and easy.

Akai looks cool, but i think the digitech is a little better... as a looper. Plus the whole thing about the stereo output weirdness kinda ruins it.

I'll have to hunt down a ps-3 and try it out. A lot of the sounds in demos have this sort of... boss-ish quality to them in a lot of videos, but they don't always have them when you use them.


Any recommendations on boards?


And hellion that's awesome that you're awesome. The cathedral is pretty much a whole box of reverb + delay though, and I can honestly cover quite a bit of ground with a cranked twin, a volume pedal and a ts9. I have been thinking about a big... chunky kind of distortion, something that sounds like The Sword, though. The ts9 is good for kickin up the gain but it adds too much midrange for a good heavy sound.
 
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drew_half_empty said:
And hellion that's awesome that you're awesome. The cathedral is pretty much a whole box of reverb + delay though, and I can honestly cover quite a bit of ground with a cranked twin, a volume pedal and a ts9. I have been thinking about a big... chunky kind of distortion, something that sounds like The Sword, though. The ts9 is good for kickin up the gain but it adds too much midrange for a good heavy sound.
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LOL, I'm not awesome, I'm noisy. But the one thing I've learned (and again, you can either accept this as experience or deny it as the words of an idiot), you really only have two choices when you're the only guitar player in a band, prog-rock or otherwise. You're either in the Clash, so you want everything as much in your face as possible, which just means that your normal set up works just fine. Or, you're in something like the Police, in which case you need a lot of echo (note that I did not say reverb) choices. And look, I don't want to get in a pissing match with you about this, because, I'm an old man, and what the hell do I know when it comes to your generation's definition of prog-rock? My definition of "Heavy Metal" is still Black Sabbath, Dio era.
 
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Hellion said:
LOL, I'm not awesome, I'm noisy. But the one thing I've learned (and again, you can either accept this as experience or deny it as the words of an idiot), you really only have two choices when you're the only guitar player in a band, prog-rock or otherwise. You're either in the Clash, so you want everything as much in your face as possible, which just means that your normal set up works just fine. Or, you're in something like the Police, in which case you need a lot of echo (note that I did not say reverb) choices. And look, I don't want to get in a pissing match with you about this, because, I'm an old man, and what the hell do I know when it comes to your generation's definition of prog-rock? My definition of "Heavy Metal" is still Black Sabbath, Dio era.
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I've come to agree about the echo/delay vs. reverb thing.

In a live setting, I find reverb just adds a mushy clutter to your playing; either that or no one can actually tell its on.

In the studio, you're better off adding reverb in the mix anyway.

That's why in my new rig I have a TC Electronic Nova Repeater, and no reverb whatsoever.
 
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